When will we get to see new Rayman, realistically?

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When will we get to see new Rayman, realistically?

Post by Keane » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:00 am

>Pretty average sales for Legends
>Obviously another 2D game on top Origins/Legends/Jungle Run/Fiesta Run/Adventures is overkill
>But Legends' sales probably aren't making Ubisoft very excited about investing in a whole 'nother 3D platformer
>Ubisoft in general seems to be in a kind of bleh period (Assassin's Creed losing steam, Rabbids are dying off, Rayman isn't a huge mascot, Splinter Cell undersold)
>Adventures feels like Ubi's last step to cash in on 2D Rayman before it turns into NSMB, got some criticism for the lack of new ideas

3D or not, I feel like ray might be back in limbo for a while. Not necessarily implying that rayman is kill, but I really don't expect another genuine console title anytime soon. Will we actually see new Rayman continue into a consistent series?
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Post by Bradandez » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:12 am

Yeah, I can't say for sure if Rayman will get another console game anytime soon. All I can say is that Adventures is there to satisfy people who wanted more from Origins/Legends, like me, on a much smaller scale and to at least make some profit from it.

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Post by RayCarrot » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:58 am

Raymans facebook and twitter page has several times confirmed that no new Rayman title except Adventures is in development, but we can always hope that if Adventures goes well they'll change they're minds and make a real console game. A third 2D game wouldn't really work unless they added something very big to it, like online multiplayer. But it would still seem repetitive then.
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Post by GOT4N » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:34 am

Carrot-master wrote:Raymans facebook and twitter page has several times confirmed that no new Rayman title except Adventures is in development, but we can always hope that if Adventures goes well they'll change they're minds and make a real console game. A third 2D game wouldn't really work unless they added something very bid to it, like online multiplayer. But it would still seem repetitive then.
I'd say the same. Although I actually wished we would had a Rayman 4

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Post by Haruka » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:00 pm

As I expressed myself before, I highly doubt we will see anything new before E3 2016 and yet, if Ubisoft is really telling the truth concerning Rayman Adventures being the only title of the franchise in development, then I fear we won't really see anything before E3 2017 or even 2018. It is a bit a sad but we all have to admit that things aren't going for Rayman as we would like to, as Legends sales weren't as high as expected by the company. I blame the following:

- Lack of publicity/marketing (Try to compare with the publicities made back in Rayman 2 and more recently, Rayman Origins. It is nothing related.)

- Bad choice in the (final) release date (Everyone knows what the crowd, kids included (!), is going to purchase if you show them Rayman Legends in one hand and GTA V in other hand. September is not a favourable month for gaming purchase either but this is my personal opinion as I think they could have moved for November if they really had the chance, but then, I understand if there were other factors stopping that option to be put in practice)

- Successive delays (Don't get me wrong, delays are generally a good thing and I appreciate that because it means that the game was not ready yet and needed room for improvement. It makes me relieved to know that delays happened because when I look back and do comparisions of game content in the course of the development, Rayman Legends would have been a VERY short game and with no boss battles (!). I personally would have prefered totally new levels instead of remakes of almost the entire Rayman Origins game. It felt repetitive for players that played RO between 2011 until 2013. Although the game got improved in terms of content, I remember seeing a lot of people angry...)

- Premature canceling of exclusivity (Here's the polemic fact: this game was going to be a Wii U exclusive. Many fans bought a Wii U in purpose to play it, and some of them already owning other systems. Suddenly, it will go multiplatform. I don't need to continue to go on, as we saw what happened. I knew it would eventually go multiplatform but I did not expect to happen before the game release. Fortunately, I also had in account the Nintendo exclusives so I did not get very mad about it but others did take it badly and even threatned boycotting the game (I wonder if everybody was true to their words in the end...))

- Proliferation of Smartdevices (In these latest years the smartdevices evolved a lot. They are more powerful with more functionalities and even more accessible to the general public. The result is that almost everyone has got at least a smartdevice at home and it is very common to see people playing casual games in them. I am constantly seeing that in the train and subway. I would like to think it is a fashion but this actually makes me concerned as a PC/Console gamer as I fear companies will start to ignore us as microtransactions seem to be the real thing now. Even Nintendo announced its first smartphone game so you see. But then, I also highly doubt these devices will replace the "real" games as I don't really see that happening.)

I believe these facts are enough to explain why Ubisoft is not living a golden era with Rayman at this moment. And as Keane refered, it doesn't just apply to him, but also the Rabbids (no big surprise in my opinion as every time I visit France I witnessed a brutal decrease in merchandising stock) and other IPs.

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Post by ikke471 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:13 pm

I don't think they're gonna make another 2d one anytime soon.
But what I do see is 3D collect-a-thon platformers making a return (Yooka-Laylee and Hat in time are the two major ones right now) and I think Ubi will eventually pick up on that once they release and make lots of moola (which I expect they do). so I expect we'll hear something around 2017 (I doubt they're gonna let Ancel Work on it if WiLD and presumably BG&E2 are still in development though so it might take longer).
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Post by Acarr » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:25 pm

I feel it's too late for a "Rayman 4" title, Rayman 3 came out over 10 years ago.
Rayman Origins was fantastically successful and it saved Rayman. Making a Rayman 4 would be less "will it be disappointing to the fans?" and more "will it be worth our time/money"?


I'd absolutely love to see a new multiplayer game, Rayman M style, but with the current art style? Or maybe that could be one way of seeing if a 3D Rayman game could work again...
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Post by Haruka » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:38 pm

Nostalgy aside, I still think that Rayman M is a fantastic spin-off. I still like to play it ocasionally, and now with the possibility to play online through Evolve with the NA version it is even better. :D

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Post by Acarr » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:43 pm

I love Rayman M, though I have no friends who are willing to even attempt to play against me :lol: (a Rayman M scores topic I made a good while back was good fun I remember)
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Post by OCG » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:13 pm

Acarr wrote:I love Rayman M, though I have no friends who are willing to even attempt to play against me :lol:
We have Skype group with people from RPC who play Rayman Arena online so if you want, you can join group and play against other players ;)
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Post by SpyroGuy » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:42 pm

OCG wrote: We have Skype group with people from RPC who play Rayman Arena online so if you want, you can join group and play against other players ;)
I'm more than ready to play with any of you guys, just tell me which Skype group I have to join and I'm in! :D
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Post by OCG » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:48 pm

I think I have you on Skype so I will add you to group. But I cannot play today sadly. I am busy. Perhaps other people will be avalible?
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Post by SpyroGuy » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:44 pm

OCG wrote:I think I have you on Skype so I will add you to group. But I cannot play today sadly. I am busy. Perhaps other people will be avalible?
Just add me to the group. :D
I didn't say that I'll be available to play right now, I just wanna be the part of a group which has the players to have fun with just in case I get the chance to play the game.
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Post by OCG » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:59 pm

SpyroGuy wrote:
OCG wrote:I think I have you on Skype so I will add you to group. But I cannot play today sadly. I am busy. Perhaps other people will be avalible?
Just add me to the group. :D
I didn't say that I'll be available to play right now, I just wanna be the part of a group which has the players to have fun with just in case I get the chance to play the game.
I added you.
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Post by Bradandez » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:22 pm

GOT4N wrote:I'd say the same. Although I actually wished we would had a Rayman 4
>Still thinking Rayman 4 will be made
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Acarr wrote:I'd absolutely love to see a new multiplayer game, Rayman M style, but with the current art style? Or maybe that could be one way of seeing if a 3D Rayman game could work again...
RAYMAN M SEQUEL! WITH RAYMAN, GLOBOX, TEENSIES, PRINCESSES, NYMPHS, AND SOME VILLAINS AS PLAYABLE CHARACTERS! Just use characters that are actually cool.

And also my idea for a new 3D game is to have the playable characters from Origins/Legends (that'd be Rayman, Globox, the Teensies, and Barbara) and have them have special moves/attributes. Or have the game play out like Super Mario 3D World.

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Post by Acarr » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:33 pm

Bradandez wrote:
Acarr wrote:I'd absolutely love to see a new multiplayer game, Rayman M style, but with the current art style? Or maybe that could be one way of seeing if a 3D Rayman game could work again...
RAYMAN M SEQUEL! WITH RAYMAN, GLOBOX, TEENSIES, PRINCESSES, NYMPHS, AND SOME VILLAINS AS PLAYABLE CHARACTERS! Just use characters that are actually cool.
Yeah! No fucking Tily the fairy please.
Bradandez wrote:And also my idea for a new 3D game is to have the playable characters from Origins/Legends (that'd be Rayman, Globox, the Teensies, and Barbara) and have them have special moves/attributes. Or have the game play out like Super Mario 3D World.
I'd still just play as Rayman haha
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Post by Bradandez » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:45 pm

Acarr wrote:Yeah! No fucking Tily the fairy please.
And no Razorwife! But I gotta admit, her theme song was pretty sweet!
Acarr wrote:I'd still just play as Rayman haha
And that's totally cool with me. It's just now that they introduced these characters into the playable roster, it's kind of a kick to the balls to take them away.
As for the Super Mario 3D World idea, some may say it's not meant for Rayman. But the same has been said towards Origins & Legends. And I think a Super Mario 3D World-esque game would be a great step forward for the UbiArt Rayman games.

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Post by Master » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:21 pm

Keep Henchman 1000 though, he looks cool.
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Post by Squiz » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:45 pm

I would love a new 3D Rayman game like CGI trailers we had for Legends and Adventures, with story and voice acting.
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Post by incognito » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:47 am

Bradandez wrote:
GOT4N wrote:I'd say the same. Although I actually wished we would had a Rayman 4
>Still thinking Rayman 4 will be made
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