iHeckler9 wrote:In Shoot for the Stars, Mr. Dark jumps off of a cliff and lands on a Warship piloted by Hunters and Lividstones. Now, if the Lividstones and Hunters were hostile, they would surely disapprove of a stranger boarding their ship and giving them orders to attack a stranger on Moskitoback and would attempt to kill him. Because they don't, it can only be assumed that they have an alliance, and the msot obvious alliance I can think of is that the Hunters and Lividstones work for Mr. Dark. With me so far?
I’m quite sure that that’s the Magician, not Mr Dark. The script tells us that the Magician’s ultimate goal was to overthrow the Bubble Dreamer with his mechas, so all the Magician’s other actions (like starting a war between the Rayman and the Livid Dead) can be seen as preliminary to that. If the Hunters and Lividstones work for the Magician, that means it’s the Magician who ordered them to start capturing Electoons, causing the bonds between the lands to disintegrate. Meaning that, rather than just barging straight to the Moody Clouds, Rayman would have to travel all the way around the Glade to free the Electoons, unwittingly gathering Lums for the Magician with every step. If he directed the Hunters and Lividstones to do the capturing, that would also explain why he has a ready supply of Electoons to offer Rayman in exchange for the Lums he needs to power his machines.
iHeckler9 wrote:A bit of trivia: In Pirate's Treasure!, once the Tricky Treasure sees Rayman, it jumps onto the Lividstone's Warship. For the same reason as above, if the Lividstone didn't want the Tricky Treasure on the Warship, it would have chased it off. (It could just be that the Tricky Treasure wanted a platform to land on, but it is so sure in its movements that it simply wouldn't jump into a hostile Warship.) Thus, following the logic that the Lividstones work for the Hunters, and the Hunters work for Mr. Dark, Mr. Dark has some sort of control over Tricky Treasures, and may even be their creator. More on this later.
I follow your logic, but as I said above, I don’t think Mr Dark has anything to do with this: it’s the Magician that’s behind everything this time.
iHeckler9 wrote:Now, this is where it gets complicated. In Port 'O Panic, the Darktoon that has Annetta Fish in its mouth jumps onto a Warship. The logic above explains that if the Lividstones did not like it, they would have disposed of it in some way. Because they didn't, Mr. Dark must have some power over Darktoons.
Darktoons don’t really seem to be an organised and intelligent force; they’re just malevolent bundles of dark energy. They were spawned by Jano and apparently served him in the beginning, they work for Mr Dark in R1, they have no clear alliance but to themselves in the PS1 version of R2, and they appear to serve both the Livid Dead and the Magician in Rayman Origins. They’re just little monsters who are in it for themselves – much like the piranhas.
iHeckler9 wrote:Jano, Bubble Dreamer's alter ego, produces Darktoons like cows make milk. As I've explained, Mr. Dark has some power over Darktoons. It can either be two things: They could be scared of him, or, Jano and Mr. Dark are in alliance (but we don't know which one is stronger in power) and when Rayman went on his quest to find a bunch of Electoons, Mr. Dark, in effect, became the Magician.
I guess you missed this, but Jano is not the Bubble Dreamer’s alter-ego but his offspring. The website has a mistranslation; it should say that the Bubble Dreamer ‘begot’ Jano, not that he ‘became’ him. This error does not appear on the French site or in the English manual. The English site contains several other errors, such as stating that Soldiers, piranhas and Mr Dark appear in the game.
iHeckler9 wrote:The Fakirs, as you might know, have an odd habit of sacrificing peas to help get Polokus back to normal again. Why do the Fakirs have Darktoons on their heads in the first place? Because Mr. Dark doesn't want to get Bubble Dreamer back to normal, and possibly wants to overthrow him, just like in the script.
The script makes it pretty explicit that the Magician is an admirer of Mr Dark – you might have missed this as well, but Drolpiraat discovered that certain text characters in the file corresponded with the character meant to speak each line in the game, and the Magician is definitely the one who says ‘I always wanted to be like Mr Dark’. As for the Fakirs, I suppose those Darktoons could have been sent by the Magician to stop the pea sacrifice, or they could have been sent by the Livid Dead, who simply want to destroy everything.
iHeckler9 wrote:Coming back to a previous point is stressful, so here's a joke. What's black and white and has no red? The Grim Reaper. Who do you think beat him up? Rayman wants to go into the Land of the Livid Dead to sort out Big Mama, but only one person, the same person that changed Big Mama into a monster, is trying to stop Rayman get in. If Mr. Dark did indeed make the Tricky Treasures, then he must want to protect the Skull Teeth inside, so Rayman cannot get in.
I'm running out of ideas, but...In the opening sequence of the game, Polokus blows bubbles with characters inside and they pop. We know that Polokus creates stuff out of his bubbles, and at the very end he blows a monster Daisy bubble. But wait, why would he dream about that?
You’re reaching a bit by suggesting that someone assaulted the Grim Reaper – the bandage on his head ould easily have been from an accident that occurred during his lifetime or something like that. No reference is made to it in the story, so I doubt it’s important. Nobody changed the Kings of each land into monsters; it simply happened as a result of the increasing influence of Bubble Dreamer’s nightmares. This was caused by the Livid Dead invasion, which in turn was orchestrated by the Magician, who planted a microphone in the Snoring Tree. The forest, music, food and sea worlds each have one elemental animal ruler and one nymph; the Land of the Livid Dead’s ruler and nymph happen to be the same being, Big Mama. The opening sequence of the game is meant to convey the idea that the Bubble Dreamer is dreaming the world and its inhabitants into existence; it shouldn’t be taken too literally, or we’d have to assume that Betilla was created just a few moments into the game (which would make her much younger than Rayman, whom she created).
iHeckler9 wrote:The Granny in the intro orders the Psychlopses and Darktoons to attack the heroes. The Grannies have some control over Darktoons and Psychlopses. The Darktoons and Psychlopses are both the same colour and in the opening they are all seen together underground, as a massive family. When they all start screaming, there's loads of them as well. The Darktoons are a species. When the First Bad Dream happened, the Four Kings transformed into monsters, and so did Big Mama. If you remember, it wasn't Polokus who caused it, technically it was Jano. Because Jano and Mr Dark are allies, Jano and Mr. Dark probably agreed to transform the Four Kings into monsters to kill Rayman and seal the portal to Moody Clouds, so Mr. Dark could get ready for his attack on Polokus. Thus: Mr. Dark is the root of all evil.
Thanks for your time. --iHeckler9
Where does it say that the four Kings transformed into monsters when the First Bad Dream happened? I thought they only transformed much later, during the events of Rayman Origins. Since happening to govern some Darktoons does not necessarily imply that villains are in league with one another, I really see no evidence that Jano and Mr Dark (or Jano and the Magician) have any kind of allegiance. I would hazard a guess that this convoluted theory was created to justify your belief that Mr Dark is the mega-villain behind every bad thing that’s ever happened. While that’s perfectly understandable (Mr Dark is very cool), I’m afraid that Jano is the true root of all evil – the original nightmare that brought evil to the Glade of Dreams and inspired the creation of Rayman.