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Re: references in Rayman 3 - help

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There is also the reference to Russian Polka when Rayman creates a portal with the teensy at the end of most levels.

The plum itself and the way the plum is used to put it on the head of the gorille-pirate is a reference the first Rayman game.

And Mr.Dark and Admiral Razorbeard are inspired by Darth Vader and the Sheriff of Notingham respecitvely according to Michel Ancel.

In Rayman 2 (PS1), Admiral Razorbeard says "Rayman is not long for this world". Is that a quote from Shakespeare?
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Rock_TBT wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:52 am And Mr.Dark and Admiral Razorbeard are inspired by Darth Vader and the Sheriff of Notingham respecitvely according to Michel Ancel.
I don't think Ancel was that specific, his quote was:

"Rayman is a true high-performance hero who keeps a good sense of humor like Indiana Jones, for instance. He is also a rebel, fighting against the bad guys, as in Star Wars or Robin Hood."
https://www.ign.com/articles/1999/07/07/behind-rayman-2

The idea of Razorbeard and Mr Dark being inspired by Darth Vader and the Sheriff of Notingham, is just speculation from someone else.
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I think it's important to stress that an inspiration is not necessarily a reference, too.
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Hunchman801 wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:41 pm
"Make him eat his hood!" is a reference to how Uncle Scrooge and Flintheart Glomgold challenges each other to eat their own hats if the lose in Carl Barks comics.
Or maybe just an adaptation of the phrase “eat one's hat”, given that the subject is a Hoodlum?
I know I'm late to the party but I wanted to mention that this actually would be from Globox talking about Reflux (who wears a hood) as he cheers Rayman on before the fight. However I'm not sure how this qualifies as a reference to anything either. :P
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In a quote, Murfy says "armageddon is upon us".

Is that a reference to the movie "Clue (1985)", where the chief says "Armageddon is almost upon us."

Armageddon is also mentioned in the Bible I believe, and is also the title of a movie from 1998.

Is it a running gag that the first three Rayman games, all include piranahas who get their teeth destroyed?

And the first three Rayman games all include the plum itself, and that the plum is always placed on top of an enemy´s head.

Is Otto´s scientist-robe, a reference to Dr.Frankenstein (from the novel and movie Frankeinstein´s monster)?

Is "Big Hand" by Globox a reference to the enemy in Smash Bros with the same name?
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There are countless of characters that wear labcoats (see: Labcoat of Science and Medicine). If something must be considered as a reference to Dr. Frankenstein, I think more similarities with the source material have to be found.
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And to address the other points:
Rock_TBT wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:33 pm In a quote, Murfy says "armageddon is upon us".

Is that a reference to the movie "Clue (1985)", where the chief says "Armageddon is almost upon us."

Armageddon is also mentioned in the Bible I believe, and is also the title of a movie from 1998.
I invite you to look up Armageddon on Wikipedia. In this context, it simply refers to the end of the world, which I'm sure you'll agree is a concept that predates the movie Clue. :P
Rock_TBT wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:33 pm Is it a running gag that the first three Rayman games, all include piranahas who get their teeth destroyed?

And the first three Rayman games all include the plum itself, and that the plum is always placed on top of an enemy´s head.
Unsurprisingly, there's a lot of recurring elements in the series (even Rayman himself is one of them), so it might take a very long time (and not be very useful) to list them all. I must concede however that the distinction between a reference to an earlier game and a plain recurring element is not so easy to make.
Rock_TBT wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:33 pm Is "Big Hand" by Globox a reference to the enemy in Smash Bros with the same name?
According to SmashWiki, it's actually called Master Hand, so I guess this settles the question.
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It's hard to understand what they're saying in R3 sometimes, especially because no subtitles. :mefiant: So I'm not so sure if he's saying "big hand". I would probably go back and listen to every bit of dialogue with all other sound off to find out.
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He says "big hand" all right, "grosse main" in French. It's just that he doesn't know the proper name for a Mawpaw / Paluchard...
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Who can blame him? There's been a lot of confusion here too. :P
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Oh you're right! I forgot it was in Razzof's basement that he says that.

It would hardly be a chore for me to make a video compilation of all the dialogue though! I love the game so much I'm even thinking of streaming it with my friends again someday soon.
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You can find compilations of the dialogues in YouTube:



Also, I think the PS3 localization file has most of the dialogues.
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Hunchman801 wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:22 am Who can blame him? There's been a lot of confusion here too. :P
Indeed!
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He's in-universe though. I suppose it raises an interesting question of how much awareness there is of biodiversity in the Glade, among hoi polloi (if Globox can be considered one of the latter :fou:)
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While I'm unsure about Globox's social status in the Glade, he might just be another victim of our infamous feedback loop. :hap:

I mean, don't they have RayWiki access over there?
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I think they do, but it's in a book form, so maybe it's not always up to date: viewtopic.php?f=73&t=27602
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And we might have gotten Murfy fired. Hope people won't hold that against us...
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Elite Piranha wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:51 pm You can find compilations of the dialogues in YouTube:



Also, I think the PS3 localization file has most of the dialogues.
Neat! But are there others besides Globox? I was rather thinking of a compilation with all dialogue from all characters. Someone hacky could also rip all the dialog files from the game. Would certainly save time.
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Pipann wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:43 pm Neat! But are there others besides Globox? I was rather thinking of a compilation with all dialogue from all characters. Someone hacky could also rip all the dialog files from the game. Would certainly save time.
These are all the compilations I'm aware of:

- Rayman 3 - All Rayman Voice Clips
- Rayman 3 - All Globox Voice Clips
- Rayman 3 - All Murfy Voice Clips
- "Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc" Voice Clips Playlist
- Rayman 3 - Game Sounds ~ Rip
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Is this statue in "The Longest Shortcut", a reference to Da Vinci´s "The Virtuvian Man"?

Is Armageddon, a reference to the Bible then?
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Maybe if the Teensie had an extra set of arms and legs, it could be considered a reference to the Vitruvian Man, but in this case I think it is just a Teensie that is making a similar pose.
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