How gay is RPC?

[incognito]

Also, I don't believe 11% of RPC is asexual.

Wait for them to find someone, once they will...

[Xenon]

That's what I think, although it would be interesting to hear the perspective of those voters

[Pirez]

We also have to take into perspective the fact that 11% is, in fact, two people. With such a small sample of voters, making ratios is meaningless. The margin of error is too high.

[Dart]

I'm suprised that this topic was able to keep relatively appropriate, good for us!

That's what I think, although it would be interesting to hear the perspective of those voters

Well, seeing how I make 50% percent of that vote total, I may as well speak up. Where to begin on the matter... I suppose a simple explanation of being assexual wouldn't hurt to get the ball rolling.
Being Assexual isn't abstinence; where an abstinent person choose not to have sex; Assexual people can, but it isn't for them, since being assexual is the absence of a sexual preference (not worded the best I know.)

As to how I fit into this, it's a bit of a story. To start off, I've never been into people in a sexual manner (now there's a good double entente). When people talk about sex and sexuality, I always kinda shrugged it off, as I don't understand what about a person is "desirable." This last spring I began getting a bit concerned as to who I was sexually and started looking up porn (to which I almost got sick, hilariously), and even attempted to masturbate to both guys and girls. Suffice to say it didn't quite work as I intended. At this point I began wondering if it was possible to simply not have a sexuality, which a quick trip to the internet provided. It's always possible I've been through a rather long phase (as only 1% of the world is recorded as assexual), but I kinda doubt it.

I think that "gender questioning" is stupid, I am a guy I am born as a guy, for me that's all.

Just because it doesn't fit you doen't mean you get to decide the rest of humanity's decisions.

[incognito]

My thoughts about humans, is on the first page, and this is very sincere.

[PrincessAmber]

A gender spectrum though? No, I don't buy that argument at all. Just like animals, people are born male or female. Transgendered people have changed themselves by making them appear as the other sex (which I will fully support them in and am glad that they are able to do if that's what thy want) but they were born as male or female and I find the 'born a man in a woman's body' premise to be invalid.

First of all transgendered is an incorrect phrase. Secondly I never believed there was a gender spectrum, until I met people who were all around it, they explained to me how it felt to be neither male nor female or even both or none at all! Their stories were valid and struck me pretty hard, if you meet these type of people and actually listen to them you will understand.

Also might I add that the ''male'' sex and ''female'' sex have absolutely nothing to do whether you're a man or a woman. I was born with a female gender but I was just assigned male at birth, and in my honest opinion they should change the names of the sexes or atleast say ''assigned'' so people don't have the wrong view of us trans folk.

[Imco]

On a serious note... as much as I find this an interesting discussion, I don't think it was the purpose of this topic

[PrincessAmber]

On a serious note... as much as I find this an interesting discussion, I don't think it was the purpose of this topic

I agree lmao, it just went like this I guess.

[Xenon]

@ Princess: Reading that message makes me think I offended you in my previous comments, so first of all apologies if my post came across as insulting. Though, I'm not sure how you want me to respond. Gender, by its very nature is a binary thing, so the bulk of your post is irrelevant subjectivity. I'm not heartless, I can empathise with feelings and I know a trans- person personally. But just because someone identifies with the other gender or prefers the attributes of the other gender doesn't mean they are a lesser percentage of the gender they 'are'. To say that's a matter of fact would be arrogant, but I don't see how it could be a matter of opinion.

Again, I have nothing against the concept of trans-gendering, just the way certain people go about rationalising it. If people want to switch their sex that's great, but they shouldn't then make spurious claims about their original sex.

@ Dart: really interesting, thank you for the detailed response!

[Serza5]

On a serious note... as much as I find this an interesting discussion, I don't think it was the purpose of this topic

As much as there is a close link between sexualities and gender I'm going to agree that the discussion going on is much too centered around gender/sex that's not in reference to sexualities (And yes I am aware I was part of such discussion yesterday before you say). Unless we want to rename this topic to "Sexuality and Gender in RPC" then i'm going to have to ask to stop the gender discussion unless it is about gender in sexualities.

[Keane]

Wow, lot of straight m8s. Gayman PC isn't really intended for you guys, but it's OK, we're very accepting of heterosexuals.

Also, I don't believe 11% of RPC is asexual.

Wait for them to find someone, once they will...

That would apply more to being aromantic than asexual, no? Sexuality acts itself out in sex, physical attraction, and trying to look uninteresting while staring at someone's ass. Dart isn't going to suddenly go on a porn binge if he finds a romantic interest.

I don't think it's terribly wrong to be skeptical of someone saying they're biologically asexual early on, as long as it's not meant offensively (ex: xenon). It is really rare, but from what Dart said and what GN's mentioned in previous discussions they both sound perfectly confident about it. There's always cases of people who eventually change their mind about their sexuality (ex: me) but we have no reason to hand out predetermined expectations about someone else's identity. Sexuality is a pretty personal topic for a lot of people, don't try to judge and decide for anyone about it.

I think that "gender questioning" is stupid, I am a guy I am born as a guy, for me that's all.

I don't like Wilco, therefore Wilco is a bad band that no one should listen to.

[Pirez]

Wilco is a bad band that no one should listen to.

Truer words were never spoken.

On a serious note... as much as I find this an interesting discussion, I don't think it was the purpose of this topic

As long as we can harass jews, I'm okay with whatever this topic's purpose is

[Dart]

On a serious note... as much as I find this an interesting discussion, I don't think it was the purpose of this topic

As long as we can harass jews, I'm okay with whatever this topic's purpose is

I hope you're joking . If you aren't joking, Pirez I'm a jew.

[Hunchman801]

Most modern definitions of biological sex includes hormones as well as bodies, after all hormones are in fact part of the body to begin with. So while people are intersex maybe in that small percentage of people that doesn't change the fact that even people who don't identify as trans are still born with a mixture of both "male" and "female" hormones. Of course that doesn't mean we should start talking in "I'm 70% female" my point is that there's no such thing as bodies that are purely male or female but are mostly one or the other (in most cases, with intersex being the exception).

Whatever you use to define a person's sex (though it can clearly not be the hormones in your body, maybe you meant hormone secretion), my point still stands: a huge majority of people has a clear biological sex. Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Sex has nothing to do with sexuallity, gender does. Am I suddenly not a lesbian because I like both trans and cis women? Of course not.

I assume by gender you mean the sex people identify as; for me sex and gender are the same thing, though I understand that you do not necessarily identify as your actual sex.

Anyway, what supports your assertion that sexuality is not sex-based but sex-you-identify-as-based? According to the Wikipedia article on heterosexuality (for what it's worth), it can be both.

Even if you're right and sexuality is based on the sex people identify as, then bisexual and pansexual are the same thing. Same if you're not and it's both actual sex and the sex people identify as.

My point being, I repeat, that bisexual and pansexual shouldn't both be in the poll.

[Imco]

Most modern definitions of biological sex includes hormones as well as bodies, after all hormones are in fact part of the body to begin with. So while people are intersex maybe in that small percentage of people that doesn't change the fact that even people who don't identify as trans are still born with a mixture of both "male" and "female" hormones. Of course that doesn't mean we should start talking in "I'm 70% female" my point is that there's no such thing as bodies that are purely male or female but are mostly one or the other (in most cases, with intersex being the exception).

Whatever you use to define a person's sex (though it can clearly not be the hormones in your body, maybe you meant hormone secretion), my point still stands: a huge majority of people has a clear biological sex. Not sure what you're trying to say here.

What about people with 2 penises, are they double man? Or 2 vaginas, are they double woman? I get your point on most people having either a penis or vagina and that you perceive those people as biologically male or female, but I don't think either of those "gender determining" genitals are the only thing to determine a person's so called "biological" sex.

[Pirez]

I'm a jew.

I KNEW IT!!!!!!
Disclaimer : I actually didn't

[Itooh]

That's what I think, although it would be interesting to hear the perspective of those voters

Alright then! Half of the 11% speaking.

Well, first, I have to precise that I consider it more like a choice than a biological "condition" (in my case, that is). Technically, my sexual fantasies imply girls way more than boys, so for some that would make me an abstinent straight? Whatever, I personally find less confusing to consider me an asexual: I don't want sex, and I'm fine with it. It's more a social choice than a biological fact.

If I mentioned fantasy, it's because I'm not attracted to any people. I naturally focus more on who they are than on any sexual desire. I value more friendship than the eventuality of a sexual intercourse, or whatever we call “love” (romance being, as well as fidelity, an absolutely social concept, thus completely unnatural ). Sure, my social awkwardness has something to do with that. But in the end, I find interacting with people through their opinions, their personalities, they creations or tastes, way more interesting than a physical joy. Thus, I'm unable to feel a sexual attraction for a girl. I'm way too focused on everything else.
Actually, when a man ask me if I'm "interested" in a girl, I like to ask them in return if they are interested in me. First because it's fun to confuse them, and secondly because my feelings are remotely the same: “No, it's not that I don't like you/her, it's just that I don't care at all”. (though it wouldn't work with a gay, but I'd deserve an embarrassing answer I guess :p)

As for the physical need, it's just like eating, or pooping: yeah, my body wants it, and it does feel good… But they're not goals, or even priorities. Actually, it can even be seen as a waste of time comparing to much more compelling activities! Especially pooping.
Yeah: sex is poop. =D

Of course, of course, I may change my mind one day. After all, it's a choice, it might not be permanent. But I'm happy as I am, and I really dont' see any reason to force me to seek for a need I don't have. Maybe the desire will come, maybe not, who cares?
(well, people that consider gender roles primordial, but let's just fuck them… figuratively)

[MLII]

idk what i am, but i'm something i'd mostly say i'm pan with a preference for girls? idk i mean i basically have the ability to be sexually and romantically attracted to anyone (also i mean i could say a lot about the diff between sex and gender? but not today)

I've realized I'm gay as hell... but still kind of asexual too. Girls are amazing and I love them, but the thought of getting too intimate really, really, REALLY makes me uncomfortable and sick. It'd be wonderful to have a girlfriend who respects that, but being in a relationship is very far from being my number one goal in life. I still strongly value platonic friendships over love and always will. I'm open and honest about being only into girls, because in a civilized community people will just go "oh" and move on with their lives rather than making a big deal out of it.

sooo i guess you'd say you were homoromantic asexual? i guess? or am i interpreting this wrong

I don't longer trust humans, most of them are weak and corrupted. The human cause is lost, hopeless, and not even the apocalypse could change that.

[incognito]

Thanks again to Fanboobs for his huge contributions to the pc, man I love to read your posts.

I don't longer trust humans, most of them are weak and corrupted. The human cause is lost, hopeless, and not even the apocalypse could change that.

Thank you.

[GNineify]

sooo i guess you'd say you were homoromantic asexual? i guess? or am i interpreting this wrong

Yep, I think that's pretty much the right term ~