Exactly. The value of pi is inaccurate, and thus the Bible is not inerrant, like some morons still think it is.
RayStormGirl wrote:Oh BTW Tobbe are you gonna show me the texts and videos here on this thread or in a PM?
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I can link you to some videos right now. YouTube is a treasure chest when it comes to relatively easily understood scientific videos. The playlist I'm gonna link to below is a series serving as a general introduction to the history of the Universe, the Earth, Abiogeneis, Evolution and the Scientific Method. They are highly educational and they debunk a fair share of Creationist crap.
I Kings 7 wrote:He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it.
pi = circumference/diameter = 30 cubits/10 cubits = 3.0
Presumably those figures weren't meant to be accurate.
Pi is an irrational number, so there is no exact value of it. Still, 3.0 is an error of almost 5%, and any six year old with a circle and a piece of string can figure out that it is definitely not 3.0. 3.14 is the most commonly used approximation, and that's an error of just 0.05%.
Tobbe wrote:Pi is an irrational number, so there is no exact value of it. Still, 3.0 is an error of almost 5%, and any six year old with a circle and a piece of string can figure out that it is definitely not 3.0. 3.14 is the most commonly used approximation, and that's an error of just 0.05%.
Ahhh so the 6-year-old would say...."there's a bit left" right?I might try that myself .Oh and thanks for the video!
Edit:I just thought of something when someone said That Genesis is probally more poetic....maybe the seven days aren't actually seven earth days.Since those days were man-made,they could equal anything.
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Tobbe wrote:Pi is an irrational number, so there is no exact value of it. Still, 3.0 is an error of almost 5%, and any six year old with a circle and a piece of string can figure out that it is definitely not 3.0. 3.14 is the most commonly used approximation, and that's an error of just 0.05%.
Ahhh so the 6-year-old would say...."there's a bit left" right?
Exactly.
Oh and thanks for the video!
No problem! Hopefully it will answer some of your questions.
Looking at them right now.Going to add them to my faves if I run out of time on my computer.
Edit:and by that I mean it's my bros turn so I gotta get off.I'll look at them in the morning...
Tobbe wrote:Pi is an irrational number, so there is no exact value of it.
There is an exact value of it, it's just impossible to describe with a finite number of digits.
~I sometimes wonder if pi is truly irrational... perhaps a predictable pattern emerges after trillions and trillions of decimal places, but nobody knows about it. If it's infinite, there's bound to be one eventually, correct?
spiraldoor wrote:
~I sometimes wonder if pi is truly irrational... perhaps a predictable pattern emerges after trillions and trillions of decimal places, but nobody knows about it. If it's infinite, there's bound to be one eventually, correct?
No. It has been proven that pi is irrational, and the wikipedia entry on irrational numbers describes such a number like this:
wikipedia wrote:It can be proved that irrational numbers are precisely those real numbers that cannot be represented as terminating or repeating decimals.
I wonder how Wikipedia figured that one out. Somehow I don't think it actually checked all of pi's digits to see if the entire thing is irregular, given that its digits are, you know, infinite.
Does anyone here believe that extra-terrestrials have visited Earth? I don't, but I think the odds of life existing elsewhere in the universe are astronomically high, and unless Earth was one of the first places to develop life (or has developed life that evolves at an incredibly fast speed compared to other places) I'd say there are almost certainly more advanced creatures than us out there.
I did thought once, and I do believe that exists life on other part of the Universe, after or before us. We might not know if that's true, but it also doesn't mean that we are "alone".
Yes I believe in aliens, just not the green kiddy adaptations of them. Not sure about advanced species though. If there were a colony of beings more intelligent and advanced than us, surely they would have found a way to navigate the cosmos and visit our planet.
They may be thousands of lightyears away from us, which would negate the possibility of them visiting (without FTL travel, at least). There might not be anything here to interest them, anyway... and there are probably millions of similar planets that are more convenient for them.
There is something called the Drake Equation which can be used to calculate the number of advanced species in the galaxy. Here's Carl Sagan demonstrating it:
