Lore thread

[spiraldoor]

I've always thought og thee red atomic orbs in Rayman 3 as just being Rayman 3's version of Red Lums. I didn't think the discrepancy between the two types of Red Lums had an actual in-game explanation; I just thought it was an artistic choice made by the developers. The choice was probably made after the cutscenes had all been rendered, so it was too late to change the Red Lums in them to reflect the new design. I also thought that the R3 Red Lums looked a bit like the Powers from Rayman 1.

Those things Reflux shoots at Rayman in the final battle are essentially yellow versions of R3's Red Lums, so I've always wondered if they might actually be Yellow Lums somehow, perhaps involving a connection of some sort between the Heart of the World and the Sceptre of the Leptys.

I got the impression that all the Rayman 1 characters went on holiday together after the events of the game, including the bosses and various other enemies, all of whom came to their senses once the natural balance had been restored.

I think that André can corrupt any type of Lum, not just the Red ones. He came pretty close to converting 1000 Yellow Lums near the start of the game. I wonder what would have happened if he had...

I think that there are two different breeds of Black Lums. A 'progenitor'-type Black Lum, which is comparatively intelligent, has arms, is capable of speech, and can convert other Lums by touching them; and a 'servile' sort of Black Lum, which is stupid and incapable of speech, has no arms, follows the orders of the 'progenitor' which converted it, cannot convert other Lums by touching them. 'Progenitors' can only be created by scaring a Lum, and converting a 'progenitor' back to its former state causes all of its 'offspring' to do the same. André is the only 'progenitor' Black Lum we've met, but I think it's possible that Toots is another.

I believe that the Heart of the World produces Red, Blue and Purple Lums. Murfy says that it's 'Where all the world's energy comes from', and we know that it provides peace, harmony and balance, all of which could probably be achieved by the production of the other three Lum types.

[Spanex]

I always thought the red ords to be particles of red lums.

Also didn't it say that the heart of the world was made of red lums in Rayman 3? That would make me think the heart is actually made of every type of lum...which would also make alot more sense.

[EvanEDavies]

Yeah, Raymans universe is so strange and wonderful if all lums are spawned from the heart of the world, and lums also have the ability to combine and split apart, does that mean the heart itself is actually a giant super mega awesome lum?

[Spanex]

Elite Rainbow Lum. XD

[Adsolution]

Kinda along these lines?

[Spanex]

*doesn't understand what Rayfan is trying to say*

[Haruka]

Kinda along these lines?

You shouldn't hotlink dA's drawings... (Coicidencially it's a friend of mine)

I got the impression that all the Rayman 1 characters went on holiday together after the events of the game, including the bosses and various other enemies, all of whom came to their senses once the natural balance had been restored.

That's the same impression I also got the first time I saw Skops resting on the Dragon Boat on the sea, happy. The other pictures also make really suggestive that everyone went on vacations.

[spiraldoor]

Also didn't it say that the heart of the world was made of red lums in Rayman 3?

No, that information is never stated anywhere official and I have no idea where it comes from.

[Haruka]

Red Lums? The only thing is known about the composition of the Heart of the World is being made of 1000 Yellow Lums.

[Spanex]

I believe the 'heart being made of red lums' idea was in Raywiki... But, if André only can convert red lums to black, then why did he intend on converting the heart aswell, while it's made of yellow lums? That is, if it really IS only made of yellow lums.

That's where my thoughts come from about the heart being made of every kind of lum.

[spiraldoor]

I believe the 'heart being made of red lums' idea was in Raywiki...

The key word here is ‘was’. We removed it. Dreyfus was notorious for adding made-up nonsense to Rayman wikis.

But, if André only can convert red lums to black, then why did he intend on converting the heart aswell, while it's made of yellow lums?

What makes you think that they can only convert Red Lums? I though the invasion of the Fairy Council made it pretty clear that he can convert Yellow Lums, and we know he can also convert whatever energy it is that’s powering the Sceptre of the Leptys.

[Spanex]

I believe the 'heart being made of red lums' idea was in Raywiki...

The key word here is ‘was’. We removed it. Dreyfus was notorious for adding made-up nonsense to Rayman wikis.

Yes, was.

But, if André only can convert red lums to black, then why did he intend on converting the heart aswell, while it's made of yellow lums?

What makes you think that they can only convert Red Lums? I though the invasion of the Fairy Council made it pretty clear that he can convert Yellow Lums, and we know he can also convert whatever energy it is that’s powering the Sceptre of the Leptys.

Okay, so maybe he can...But I'm still doubtful about the heart of the world being only made of 'knowledge', as that's where the yellow lums stand for.

[Rsandee]

I believe the 'heart being made of red lums' idea was in Raywiki... But, if André only can convert red lums to black, then why did he intend on converting the heart aswell, while it's made of yellow lums? That is, if it really IS only made of yellow lums.

That's where my thoughts come from about the heart being made of every kind of lum.

Every kind of lum would make sense, the world needs water, so it would also have blue lums.

Now i think of it, orange lums have never been in a Rayman game.

[Spanex]

Yeah, most of all because:
Red lums represent health,
Yellow lums represent intelligence,
Green lums represent memory, (I think this because it brings you back the last time you took one if you die.)
Blue lums are life...
...and that would leave Purple lums with connection and binding everything in the world together. Perhaps in other words, friendship?

I actually thought about orange lums too. Maybe they'll be introduced one day.

[spiraldoor]

But, if André only can convert red lums to black, then why did he intend on converting the heart aswell, while it's made of yellow lums?

What makes you think that they can only convert Red Lums? I though the invasion of the Fairy Council made it pretty clear that he can convert Yellow Lums, and we know he can also convert whatever energy it is that’s powering the Sceptre of the Leptys.

Okay, so maybe he can...But I'm still doubtful about the heart of the world being only made of 'knowledge', as that's where the yellow lums stand for.

I don’t see why not. The Heart of the World is the origin of the entire universe, and the universe itself is arguably composed of information. Besides, Yellow Lums might not be pure knowledge. They may represent other forces too.

...and that would leave Purple lums with connection and binding everything in the world together. Perhaps in other words, friendship?

‘Purple Lums assure the cohesion of the world. Without them, nothing would be solid or visible.’

Personally I think that description makes them sound a lot like the Higgs boson: I believe that Purple Lums grant mass, making things solid and visible in Rayman’s universe.

[Jewish Candy]

I agree with Spiral-senpai, save the 'yellow lum' thing. It is basically stated that they are the origin of all knowledge. Spanex, that doesn't make them any less powerful, since knowledge IS power - Magic probably (almost definitely) originates with them, as does the ability to think and speak. The knowledge could also refer to a realisation of existence, basically making sure that the world knows it exists, and therefore does ... as well as a knowledge of the existence of all living beings on the planet.

What I'm trying to say is that knowledge shouldn't be dismissed as something secondary to the world's reality. Mumbo jumbo, yadda yadda yadda.

[EvanEDavies]

Yeah, most of all because:
Red lums represent health,
Yellow lums represent intelligence,
Green lums represent memory, (I think this because it brings you back the last time you took one if you die.)
Blue lums are life...
...and that would leave Purple lums with connection and binding everything in the world together. Perhaps in other words, friendship?

I actually thought about orange lums too. Maybe they'll be introduced one day.

But there are orange lums, y'know the combined yellow ones.. Y'know with the smiley faces

[ParadoxJuice]

Time for a colour blindness test, son.

[EvanEDavies]

I ain't colour blind, they look orange and that's the way they are and unless a person is entirly colour blind (I'm not) then they only have trouble reconising colours placed next to other colours. Example- they would have trouble seeing a RED golf tee hidden in a big GREEN medow of grass. THEY ARE ORANGE GODDAMNITT

[mastermatt56]

THEY ARE ORANGE GODDAMNITT

I'm pretty sure they're yellow.