Something Bothering you?/Daily Doldrums

[Dark Lum Lord]

I am officially beyond pissed due to a proposed bill in Kansas that allows the refusal of service to same-sex couples. I'm going to go ahead and copy a post I typed on it from a different forum, since I've sucked the energy out of me with my anger. This is a complete outrage. I, quite frankly, don't care if homosexual relationships go against your views. Whatever, life goes on, I personally think it's wrong not to accept others for who they are, but it's no big deal. Everyone has their own opinion. But it is never right to completely strip someone of personal rights because you disagree on one measly aspect of who they are. This is utter bullshit.

We aren't living in the fifties anymore, wake up and smell the coffee people. If it's still taking this long for people to realize that a person should be judged by who they are deep inside instead of by their age, gender, race, or sexuality, I've lost all my faith in humanity. Another reason why I prefer to wander around in my own fantasy world in La La Land than to live in this one.

The sooner we rid the world of incompetent, arrogant leaders, the better a place the world will be. And I'm tired of waiting around for it to just happen.

[Dart]

We aren't living in the fifties anymore, wake up and smell the coffee people. If it's still taking this long for people to realize that a person should be judged by who they are deep inside instead of by their age, gender, race, or sexuality, I've lost all my faith in humanity. Another reason why I prefer to wander around in my own fantasy world in La La Land than to live in this one.

The sooner we rid the world of incompetent, arrogant leaders, the better a place the world will be. And I'm tired of waiting around for it to just happen.

sadly we live in America, a land where fools are considered better than the wise, and our parents and our grandparents have kept to tradition while we are slowly driven away from them so that we can build a better future.

[Adsolution]

If it's still taking this long for people to realize that a person should be judged by who they are deep inside instead of by their age, gender, race, or sexuality, I've lost all my faith in humanity. Another reason why I prefer to wander around in my own fantasy world in La La Land than to live in this one.

Just look at how far we've come in the last century though, it's not only been a technological revolution, but one in which our nurture is changed drastically by the decade. I'd be hard-pressed to believe that even a large minority of people born in the 70s would share the same moral and ideological ground as someone born in the 90s, for instance. I'd say that it's only natural for there to be such a confluence of open- and closed-mindedness in this time, when the generations who were raised only near the start of this thing are still around today. A few people who were raised from a young age with easily-available internet access are only just now starting to have kids of their own and are still young, probably only in their mid-20s. There's so much we haven't seen yet that's bound to occur.

[MLII]

someone on my tumblr is harassing me

by harassing me i mean they keep making passive aggressive/vague posts about how much they hate me, my friend, and people like us, and is now messaging my gigapause.com profile telling me to kill myself

not sure what to do

[Cairnie]

It's that cisphobic person isn't it

Report that shitstain

[MLII]

yeah my friend already did that. OTL

i mean there's venting about cis people mistreating you and then there's,,,,,this

[Serza5]

Hm i've often pondered how to feel about this cis het hate thing going on. I can sort of let it slide if it's just venting out about how "they suck" or whatever, but attacking people directly for being cishet is certainly shitty.

[Dart]

people not liking heterosexuals has been an ongoing thing and I'm against those people that act all "go to hell" over it. but personally I don't like seeing anybody's "affection" for anybody, but I'm often told that's cause I can't properly feel the emotion love.

[MLII]

basically my friend said something along the lines of "well if this guy from this thing in gay in alternate universe 2 then i'm pretty sure he's gay in alternate universe 1 because technically they're the same person"

this is homophobic/queer erasing apparently??? note that my friend is a lesbian and not a likely contender for a homophobe unless she pulled a kenneth williams

[Adsolution]

but I'm often told that's cause I can't properly feel the emotion love.

Oh you confused sixteen-yo.

[Dart]

basically my friend said something along the lines of "well if this guy from this thing in gay in alternate universe 2 then i'm pretty sure he's gay in alternate universe 1 because technically they're the same person"

well not necessarily as in one parallel universe I may not exist and in another incognito could have invented the RPC, but it seems like you and your friend are being persecuted unfairly.

[MLII]

that's a good point i guess

(checking the site again the response i got to "stop telling people to kill themselves" was "trans people are told to kill themselves all the time stop being a sheltered asshole")

(.......................you literally just said that you know it's wrong and hurtful so uh why are you still doing it)

[Serza5]

I'd say that's a reportable offense as they're abusing your right to feel safe on the site. As i've said it's not venting at all if they're attacking you directly, it's downright bullying and they're using the "oppressed" barrier like what shitty little autistic kids to to shield them out of punishment (I'm sorry if this sounds offensive to anyone but i'd say it's a fair comparison in this case).

[Dark Lum Lord]

sadly we live in America, a land where fools are considered better than the wise, and our parents and our grandparents have kept to tradition while we are slowly driven away from them so that we can build a better future.

Eh, true. It appears to be a never-ending cycle: the youth are against the superiors, only to one day grow up themselves and end up walking contradictions. Though I still feel that generational gaps have been lessening over the years. Having Gen X parents I'd imagine is nowhere near as awkward as having Silent Generation parents.

Just look at how far we've come in the last century though, it's not only been a technological revolution, but one in which our nurture is changed drastically by the decade. I'd be hard-pressed to believe that even a large minority of people born in the 70s would share the same moral and ideological ground as someone born in the 90s, for instance. I'd say that it's only natural for there to be such a confluence of open- and closed-mindedness in this time, when the generations who were raised only near the start of this thing are still around today. A few people who were raised from a young age with easily-available internet access are only just now starting to have kids of their own and are still young, probably only in their mid-20s. There's so much we haven't seen yet that's bound to occur.

I get what you're saying. Progress continues to be made, and has been since this planet came to existence. Often times my anger, frustration, or sadness can overcome my logic and blind me from this.

someone on my tumblr is harassing me

by harassing me i mean they keep making passive aggressive/vague posts about how much they hate me, my friend, and people like us, and is now messaging my gigapause.com profile telling me to kill myself

not sure what to do

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not exactly the best person to turn to for advice, especially since I would most certainly be hopeless if I were in that situation. All I know is that if I were in that situation, my stoic side would be acting up and I'd simply ignore them. Last year, I'd probably have an emotional meltdown into a downward spiral if this were to have happened, but by now I'm nothing more than numb - apathetic. Perhaps my depression took a larger toll on me than I imagined.

But this is about you. I'm sorry to say that I truly am shit at advice, but I would greatfully give you any if I had some. For now, I'll hand over my comfort to you. Always remember that you won't get along with everyone in life, but you'll still have a group of people you can turn to - like us for instance. I honestly don't see that individual's problem - you can't attack someone simply because of who they are. You can't judge a book by its cover.

[Cairnie]

Tumblr's community has just become a big bitter cesspool of people who think they can fight fire with fire for the whole social justice tripe. Yes, there are people who lead unhappy lives because they're a minority (race, sexuality, diet etc) or have other issues in life (mental/physical health etc) and they have a right to speak up about it but too often they take it out on people who are their opposite and it's really not how anyone should deal with it.

And there I was thinking anything could top the "childfree" community that used to be on Livejournal, my god was I wrong.

[Serza5]

I'd love to know what exactly triggered that attitude on there. It was fine when it was just a matter of raising awareness of such issues and the only real drama came from racist/homophobic/etc buttholes but then for some reason they just decided that anyone who had a sliver of privilege are oppressing them for doing nothing. I get the idea that nothing comes from saying nothing so you have to speak out about that stuff but they also seem to forget that people simply do not raise awareness of such issues on their blog because it can be seriously depressing shit, especially when you reblog that sort of stuff all the time. Not to mention not reblogging doesn't mean not caring.

EDIT: On top of that, what exactly are those posts you reblog about SJ going to do about SJ? Besides make people aware that those issues exist?

[Keane]

I think the insulting tone on Tumblr has always been around, it just becomes more apparent the longer you stay around the site. When I originally joined I thought it was great. I supported the feminist posts and whatever but I feel like the more you spend time the more you don't feel like it's just a funny jab at something, it's a legitimate dislike with no base to it, because it's constantly returning to your dash. Like take for example those posts from SJ blogs that say something that basically means "fuck white people" but then tag it was #men suck #cishet scum (Or the White Cis Scum shirt that has been going around. There's no Trans Black Scum shirt. Tumblr insults those who supposedly insult them twice as hard). Neither of those are even relevant to the post, it's just nonsense those blogs are blurting out. I've mostly started unfollowing blogs that post SJ related stuff, because arguing is pointless, but I came across one last night that actually drew a whole comic about how SJ bloggers totally respect everyone and would "never insult anyone". I don't really check the blogs I follow that much, I just see a few posts and decide I'll have it on my dash, but looking at what the person posted, that comic was full of shit as literally the post right under it was an F-bomb to cis people. I argued for a little and it's funny to see how biased the tone of these blogs are, because every time they'll just insult me until I mention that I'm not straight and then I suddenly fall under one of Tumblr's beloved minorities and a respectful tone continues.

Pretty much what SJ blogs argue is that "If it doesn't apply to you, it's not being said towards you" but that's bullshit. If I say "Fuck black people" who exactly is going to think "Oh, he means just those couple people, not everyone"? (I stopped getting replies when I said this same thing to that person last night). That logic is comparable to insulting someone for being homosexual but claiming you're not homophobic. I won't go posting their link around or anything but this pretty much sums up Tumblr's attitude:



Now imagine the outrage if you replaced that with black & cis people.

I also, personally, don't believe that everything said on Tumblr is real. I refuse to believe the "oppression and depression" Tumblr claims they are supposedly experiencing is fully true. I'm sure, to an extent it is, but It's so clearly exaggerated to extreme amounts, almost like a kid who broke something and got grounded for three days and then leaves out that he broke it and says he was grounded for a week. And the fact that SJ blogs always ignore my asks when they clearly don't know how to argue it but do publicly show their replies when they see something worth insulting, makes me believe so even more. Now to be fair, there are some blogs that do stay respectful and make good points, but when I see a blog like "Alt-J" or something manage to make it my dash for the 6th or 7th time with 10,000 notes for saying something dumb like "cishets need to shut the fuck up" I feel like the insults are the majority.

[Earth Gwee]

A lot of what you're talking about is what I've been learning in my class this semester. It has made me more aware of this kind of baseless behavior and it really is sad that it even exists. People who act like that clearly haven't been in a real discussion about social injustice, that many of them have become the strawmen of their own arguments. What I mean by that is, they are of course trying to speak out about social injustice, but they're only focusing on one aspect of it and are essentially still bullying others just for being who they are. They aren't thinking about the meaning behind their words and actions before carrying them out on people. While I do enjoy Tumblr, I can definitely see where you're coming from. A lot of people nowadays are under the impression that each specific issue of oppression is separate from the rest when that is far from the truth. Basically, they've turned it into a contest, saying things like, "Well, gays are more oppressed than blacks, so they deserve more justice", and others of the like. This is a growing problem among society as a whole, unfortunately.

[Keane]

Well, I actually attempted to argue over that post I showed, to which I just received some nonsense "fuck off" like reply, and then they refused to keep talking to me. And that's pretty much how every one of those blogs will argue with you, they know their 1,000+ followers are all just as biased as themselves, so just insult all the asks and score some likes!

I think, like you said, most of those blogs don't even really know what their talking about. Most likely they saw other people post that sort of thing and decided "I'm going to save humanity too!!" and end up just believing whatever some other big blog blurts out. But overall the worst aspect of it all that I find most alarming is the bullying to it. The believe that if you've been bullied by someone, you should bully them back, and that makes you a better person. But that's not true, if you hate the feeling of being judged for how you are, then go out and spread how that makes you feel and tell people to stop it, but don't go out of your way to try and make people on a fucking social media site feel like shit and even guilt them for things.

It's not about social justice anymore, it's about hating as many people as possible and trying to make minorities shine in every way. As I said in my previous post, I couldn't get any respect until I mentioned I'm bisexual. Black people can be dickheads, gays can be assholes, but the site portrays them as this superior people who are being broken and hurt. For me, these blogs don't raise any awareness, they only make themselves look like a bunch of wankers who are full of themselves. Raising awareness means telling people that something is wrong, it doesn't mean to insult them and bully them and then tell them to fuck off because they don't like that you're being an ass. Even if there's a form of "I act this way because of what others did to me" to it, I still think that the fact that so many people act like that and that so many people support that says a lot about who those people are.

[Dart]

I agree with what you both say, but sadly people are so rapped up in what makes them "special" that they treat others rather hypocritically. makes you wonder if we should spread awareness about minorities or awareness of extreme arrogance.