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Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:27 pm
by Hunchman801
Mister Dark wrote:2 is also impossible. If the Universe were always here, then Time must logically go back eternally into the past. If this is the case, however, then, as each moment must logically have a preceding moment, we could never reach the present- that is, NOW.
This argument doesn't make sense, because time didn't even exist before the big bang.
Mister Dark wrote:If the First Cause is something of Infinite power, then the First Cause can override the laws of time and dimension as we understand them.
The problem is, who can pretend to be able to define “the laws of time and dimension”, as you call them?
Mister Dark wrote:My reasoning for this is simplistic: if one looks at the human body, with all the cells and organisms supporting each other for the benefit of the body as a whole, including vital organs, as well as emotion and the very nature of being alive- this is far too complex an organism to have simply "evolved" from a single celluar organism over millions of years.
I guess you meant “simple”, but you're right, your reasoning is actually simplistic. Because you don't understand evolution doesn't mean it can't be true. It's mathematically possible, and natural selection is the only answer to the so-called perfection of the human body.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:46 pm
by Tobbe
Nice, Hunch! Reason, logic and evidence ftw!
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:30 pm
by Hunchman801
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:29 pm
by Limely
What. Do you like... put the raw egg on the pizza before, or after you put it in the oven?
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:32 pm
by Hunchman801
After. I once ordered such a pizza, I was surprised at first but it tastes really good ^^
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:59 pm
by Limely
Oh dear, wouldn't that be a salmonella bomb deluxe then I don't know. D:
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:14 pm
by Hunchman801
That's the same problem with raw meat.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:36 pm
by Limely
Well I don't eat that either. D: If it weren't for the bacterias I'd probably try it, though.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:26 am
by Hunchman801
I don't, and it has nothing to do with bacteria ^^
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:11 am
by Limely
I meant the egg-thingy on the pizza, obviously. Raw meat is something else. That's just gross.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:19 am
by Holy Crap
Well, I like my meat to be red in the middle.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:52 am
by Tobbe
Why are you discussing this in the religion topic?
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:00 pm
by timoo
spiraldoor wrote:Do you believe in God?
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:16 pm
by Tobbe
Orsum!
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:34 pm
by spiraldoor
I wonder why God would even want people to believe in him. It makes no difference to him or anyone else. Why condemn someone to eternal agony for succh a reason?
Also, why create a universe in such a way that is contains no traces of evidence, let alone proof, of its creator's existence, then expect its inhabitants to believe?
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:01 pm
by Rsandee
People always believed in gods.... think about it, most of the gods where fake (as we know it) like Zeus and Poseidon.
But people always believed in ''the real God'', Shawn already mentioned that the Bible says that Something came out of Nothing (IMPOSSIBLE)
But i always thought of this: Why do people pray to him?
You pray to him when someone died in your family or that someone in your family has an bad disease, but ''God'' never reply's to it!!
He doesnt even say: No, Yes or even maybe!!!
Seriously.... ANYONE could make the Bible.... It could be fake.... But it could be Real too.... I don't know what to think!!
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:23 pm
by Xenon
spiraldoor wrote:Why condemn someone to eternal agony for succh a reason?
I'm not going against my cards here at all, but come on, that's not a fair point. Atheists only go to Hell if they do not follow the steps of God (this doesn't necessarily mean believing in him comes in the package), or at least, this is what we've been lead to believe by the Bible.
Rayman43231 wrote:Seriously.... ANYONE could make the Bible.... It could be fake.... But it could be Real too.... I don't know what to think!!
The scriptures weren't written by God himself but by witnesses so the chances of it being "fake" in some way are extraordinarily high.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:28 pm
by timoo
The Holy Bible.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:36 am
by Holy Crap
Timoo, your pictures win.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:57 am
by stan423321
Tobbe wrote:Orsum!
I have to agree that in some cases fanatics are worse than atheists.
