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Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:49 am
by Joshua822
But then again it remains odd that then there's no live on other planets in our solar system.
So the only crucial resource for life is water ?
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:23 pm
by Tobbe
I don't know, but I do know that oxygen is not neccesary for at least simple life forms.
How is it odd that there is (probably) no life nowhere else in our solar system? The Earth is (again, probably) the only astronomical object in our solar system that has liquid water. Venus used to have liquid water, and there might have been simple life there. Who knows?
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:26 pm
by Tobbe
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Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:07 pm
by Joshua822
Oh, wow, the guy can mock with some holes in evolution, but i didn't see any argument to believe in God too.
And, those animals combined only proves that he knows nothing about the theory itself. Life only adapts when it needs to adapt.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:26 pm
by spiraldoor
Tobbe wrote:You are wrong. The species homo sapiens is a member of the hominidae family (great apes). It can be a bit confusing, but that's the way biological taxonomy works. We are apes, just like we are chordates, mammals and primates. And here's some food for thought: Any descendants of the human species, whatever they might look like, would still be classified as chordates, mammals, primates, apes and humans. I personally think it would be awesome if the human species would branch off into two or more different species, making homo a family rather than a genus (I think, ask a real biologist).
They probably
would evolve into a couple of different species, if it wasn't for all this emigration...

Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:28 am
by Holy Crap
That's a point. If anything, the human race as a whole will probably become more similar to each other as time goes on.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:35 pm
by spiraldoor
To stop this, I think every country in the world should deport all immigrants and all descendents of immigrants back to their country of origin, then permanently close all borders in the world.

Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:16 pm
by Tobbe
Yeah, let's do that...

Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:23 pm
by spiraldoor
Yeah.
Let's.

Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:32 pm
by MLII
spiraldoor wrote:To stop this, I think every country in the world should deport all immigrants and all descendents of immigrants back to their country of origin, then permanently close all borders in the world.

Permanently close all borders? Are you sure that would be wise?
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:34 pm
by Xenon
To stop this, I think every country in the world should deport all immigrants and all descendents of immigrants back to their country of origin, then permanently close all borders in the world.
Yeah, I'm sure that would be widely accepted.
There are good sides and bad sides to immigration... just so happens bad sides seem to weigh down the good sides in this country. It would be a far better idea to temporarily close access, or provide better security for docklands or other major transport links.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:17 pm
by Joshua822
Immigration is important in Western Europa though. Since an already large part of the society in these countries are over 50 years old and this share is only growing.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:44 pm
by spiraldoor
Joshua822 wrote:Immigration is important in Western Europa though.

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Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:50 pm
by Xenon
Hehehe. To be fair though, he does have a point. Some countries need immigrants for economic growth.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:14 pm
by Beebop
I am quite neutral in the aspect of believing in god. The scientific theory of the Big Bang makes more sense because it is science. But what caused the Big Bang, what was there before the Big Bang? How was there ever anything in the first place? It boggles the mind.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:04 pm
by Jona
It does. The way I think of it is that there always has been this amount of energy in the universe, since energy can not disappear into nothing, but can be transferred to mass, and so can mass be transferred into energy. The thing is, at the start of the universe all the energy must have been contained in a VERY small piece of mass, which is what the scientists in the LHC (for the people who don't know what it is: the Large Hadron Collider, a system that's built underground and is used to speed up small particles like molecules and electrons and the such, in order to create collisions between those particles and study everything that happens during such collisions) in Geneve are trying to create. Unfortunately I haven't studied much about this subject, though it is something that does interest me a lot. But ever since the 'creation' of the universe, the energy that was once contained is now being spread across a larger area and mass. It's said that this process will be turned around eventually, thus returning to the state of that one particle containing huge amounts of energy. And still, from what we know on earth mass can only be transferred in energy and back, but of course there are the phenomenon outside our solar system that we barely have any knowledge about, and those could easily change the perception of that law Einstein once devised, and how it would work in the universe as a whole. Most of it remains a big big question for us. But I don't believe in something that's assumed WITHOUT REASONING, and that's what I'll stick with.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:45 pm
by timoo
As concerns religion...
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:24 pm
by spiraldoor
Xenon wrote:Hehehe. To be fair though, he does have a point. Some countries need immigrants for economic growth.
Who cares?
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:10 am
by Holy Crap
Being in one such country, I do.
Re: Religion - your views
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:39 pm
by spiraldoor
Eh...you'll probably be alright...
