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Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:05 am
by DandyGuy
Ahhh. My future mains.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:06 am
by Bradandez
Harpic fraîcheur wrote:Damn, I hate Shadow.. I doesn't want of him in the game ;_;
Don't worry, he's an assist trophy. And that's all he'll be.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:08 am
by Harpic fraîcheur
Bradandez wrote:
Harpic fraîcheur wrote:Damn, I hate Shadow.. I doesn't want of him in the game ;_;
Don't worry, he's an assist trophy. And that's all he'll be.
Ah nice to ear. You're now the best member of the PC, for me.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:11 am
by Bradandez
I'm thinking of having Rayman's A Smash attack be based on his Rayman 2 attacks and having the B Smash attacks be based on Rayman 1, 3, Origins, and Legends' telescopic fist attacks.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:13 am
by Harpic fraîcheur
I think it should be nice if Rayman can punch people with the telescopic fist attack and also uses his powers (from R2).

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:00 am
by Pirez
Bradandez wrote:I'm thinking of having Rayman's A Smash attack be based on his Rayman 2 attacks and having the B Smash attacks be based on Rayman 1, 3, Origins, and Legends' telescopic fist attacks.
Really? A laser attack would be better suited to a standard B attack IMO (since you can charge it). I would see the A-attacks based on RO/RL.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:10 am
by Bradandez
Pirez wrote:
Bradandez wrote:I'm thinking of having Rayman's A Smash attack be based on his Rayman 2 attacks and having the B Smash attacks be based on Rayman 1, 3, Origins, and Legends' telescopic fist attacks.
Really? A laser attack would be better suited to a standard B attack IMO (since you can charge it). I would see the A-attacks based on RO/RL.
Yes, because you also charge Rayman's fist. Duh. Even so, Rayman 2's attacks is not ideal for Rayman's moveset.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:38 am
by Shrooblord
I love Shadow but he doesn't need to be both an Assist Trophy and a character. Besides, if you want to play as Shadow, they should make him a skin for Sonic. They're too similar otherwise (in appearance, not in moveset obviously). If they really want to add another Sonic-franchise character, I'd much rather have Tails or Dr. Robotnik - someone distinctly different.

I agree that Rayman 2's Rayman doesn't have fighting techniques optimised for a brawler game. It'd be better to look at the moves from Rayman 3 (kicks, punches, telescopic fist) and Origins and Legends (kicks... punches... telescopic fist... lol).

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:44 am
by Jewish Candy
Yeah, I really don't think the R2 moveset has anything much to offer. The R3 GBA moveset however... :mrgreen: bodyshot for down special?

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:49 am
by Rayfist
Shrooblord wrote:It'd be better to look at the moves from Rayman 3
I think Rayman 3 would be a much better game for reference for Rayman's moveset. Considering the fact Rayman 3 felt like more of a Brawler than a Platformer at times it makes sense. (I also really like his kick animation when he doesn't have his fists on the intro stage)
Shrooblord wrote:If they really want to add another Sonic-franchise character, I'd much rather have Tails
Agreed, I think Tails would offer a lot of unique stuff to Smash. Shadow is just an awful choice in my opinion. Keep him as an assist trophy.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:52 am
by Shrooblord
Rayfist wrote:(I also really like his kick animation when he doesn't have his fists on the intro stage)
I was thinking of that exact thing! Doesn't Rayman also kick sometimes when he's in melee range with a Hoodlum?

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:55 am
by Rayfist
Shrooblord wrote:
Rayfist wrote:(I also really like his kick animation when he doesn't have his fists on the intro stage)
I was thinking of that exact thing! Doesn't Rayman also kick sometimes when he's in melee range with a Hoodlum?
As long as you're locked on yes.

Here's my idea of a few of Raymans moves
Neutral A: Repeatedly shoot fist 3 times to do minor knockback (kind of like Megaman's arm cannon)
Neutral B: Charge fist up (the R3 'wind up' I'm referring to here.) Charges similar to Kirby's hammer, though of course not quite as overpowered.
Up B: Helicopter, of course
Down B: A ground pound similar to his Origins move, if succesfully hitting the opponent they can remain airborne for a second like the enemies in RO.

And... the rest I have to think of, but I have a general idea for it. Any other interesting concepts?

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:56 am
by Shrooblord
Maybe he can spawn Purple Lums/Pink Rings as a side B much like Sonic and Pac-Man spawn trampoline-like things for their Up B.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:44 pm
by Rayfist
It is an interesting idea, but I think the helicopter would be more recognizable. Rayman should be pretty strong in the grab department too, given his limbless body.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:07 pm
by NyaNyaLily
Keane wrote: So everyone now seems to be pretty convinced that there's going to be more than one character for the DLC. Maybe what was deemed impossible can become reality after all..
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(Shrek is actually listed in the top voted bar graph together with Goku, Lanky Kong and Toad. Art.)
Happy Meal?
Happy Meal!?
HAPPY MEAL!?

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:19 pm
by Shrooblord
Rayfist wrote:It is an interesting idea, but I think the helicopter would be more recognizable. Rayman should be pretty strong in the grab department too, given his limbless body.
So you'd like a helicopter for both his up and side B? Do you want a Link-like grab but with a floating fist instead of a chain? I guess he'd have strong horizontal recovery, yeah.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:50 pm
by ikke471
Okay so I know I am not around much anymore but fuck it Imma tell you guys how I see his moveset happening:

Jab: his 3 punch combo he has in Origins/Legends
Dash attack: running tornado from Origins/Legends
down tilt: Leg sweep from Origins/Legends
up tilt: Using his Helicopter hair to damage and has a blowback effect if an enemy jumps over you while using this attack
side tilt: Using his Helicopter hair to damage and has a blowback effect if an enemy stands next to you while using this attack
Neutral air: the spin attack Rayman has in Origins/Legends when you press the attack button just as he hits the ground (but then in the air)
up air: an upward kick which some great range
side air: an overhead punch with his two hands like he does in Origins/Legends. has a sweetspot that would spike
down air: the crush attack from Origins/legends
down smash: kind of like a breakdance attack sending his feet flying left and right with great range
up smash: and uppercut... yeah it doesn't have to be very complicated
side smash: his R2 projectiles. they'd work like Megaman's sidesmash but smaller.
neutral special: Wind up fist from Rayman 1/3 (duh)
side special: Rayman fires the lockjaw to the direction he faces. if this hits an enemy the lockjaw janks them back (get over here)
down special: Rayman pulls a plum (or another one of the fruit things from Rayman legends) from the ground like peach and can throw it at enemies
up special: helicopter hair (of course)

he'd also be able to glide like peach but unlike peach he won't hover but will slowly descend to the ground

yay for moveset possibilities
that's just how I'd see him working out though. I'm sure Sakurai would surprise us if he makes Rayman playable

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:53 pm
by Harpic fraîcheur
CHRdutch wrote:Happy Meal?
Happy Meal!?
HAPPY MEAL!?
Yeah.. it is.. Happy Meal... :lol:

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:58 pm
by Rayfist
Shrooblord wrote:So you'd like a helicopter for both his up and side B?
Shit! No, I mean for his up B, I'm really losing it today :lol:
Ikke471 wrote: Rayman fires the lockjaw to the direction he faces. if this hits an enemy the lockjaw janks them back (get over here)
These Rayman 3 exclusive attacks would single out some people no doubt, there are definitely more recognizable attacks.

Re: Rayman (kinda) confirmed for Smash Bros. - VOTE Rayman

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:02 pm
by ikke471
Rayfist wrote:
Ikke471 wrote: Rayman fires the lockjaw to the direction he faces. if this hits an enemy the lockjaw janks them back (get over here)
These Rayman 3 exclusive attacks would single out some people no doubt, there are definitely more recognizable attacks.
Of course there are more recognizable attacks but knowing sakurai that really doesn't matter cough pacman cough.