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Was pretty surprised to find out about a new Rayman game when I thought I'd pop back on here. I don't mind it being 2D as Origins proved they can do a lot with this perspective. I will admit that I'd rather have had a 3D game, but I'm sure this one will be just as great as the others. Just wondering though, is this a Wii U exclusive or will there be PS3/XBox/PS Vita/3DS releases later?

TeensieKing wrote:

Haruka wrote:At least I'm happier that this game will include online mode. I have Rayman Origins almost since the release date and I haven't tried out the co-op mode, simply because my friends and my small cousin live all far.

That sucks. I tried it plenty of times with my mom and my friend and it's cool. Still makes things very easy.

Tried it with my brother. We ended up punching each other instead of actually playing the game.

RayTunes wrote:Just wondering though, is this a Wii U exclusive or will there be PS3/XBox/PS Vita/3DS releases later?

Of course t's not a Wii Unexclusive. There was actually an argument about this yesterday.

Nice to see you again by the way!

RayTunes you're actually back! Hooray then

RayFan9876 wrote: Nice to see you again by the way!

Rulez wrote:RayTunes you're actually back! Hooray then

I tried the "Forgot my password" option for my password several times, but the E-Mail never showed up. Tried again today and suddenly I had it.

spiraldoor wrote:

Shrooblord wrote:So Spiral, you expect the long, sindly-armed character to return to this game?

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Since this game is supposed to be an Origins sequel (right?), I thought it may be possible the character we assumed to be Mr. Dark (and you described this character more than frequently as the 'one with long, spindly arms and a triangular hat') would make an appearance. And if there's the possibility to that, there's opportunity to discuss things - and I like the theories about Mr. Dark that tend to go round here once said conversation starts. I was bringing it up.

Also, I think I heard somewhere this was going to be a Wii U Exclusive, right? Didn't I hear this? Explicitly? That it is going to be Wii U Exclusive?

Shrooblord wrote: Also, I think I heard somewhere this was going to be a Wii U Exclusive, right? Didn't I hear this? Explicitly? That it is going to be Wii U Exclusive?

Well, I wonder how they plan to insert the ability of putting rabbids or the heart in the game if it requires the Wii U screen to do it. Maybe that is a feature exclusive for the Wii U?

Shrooblord wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:

Shrooblord wrote:So Spiral, you expect the long, sindly-armed character to return to this game?

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Since this game is supposed to be an Origins sequel (right?), I thought it may be possible the character we assumed to be Mr. Dark (and you described this character more than frequently as the 'one with long, spindly arms and a triangular hat') would make an appearance. And if there's the possibility to that, there's opportunity to discuss things - and I like the theories about Mr. Dark that tend to go round here once said conversation starts. I was bringing it up.

I thought you were talking about the Paluchards or something. You could have just referred to him as Mr Dark – the text on the posters makes it perfectly clear that it’s him, and I can’t think of anyone else it could possibly be.



I strongly suspect that Mr Dark will be featured either in Legends or another upcoming game. The same goes for Jano. The developers probably wouldn’t have referenced these characters if they didn’t have plans for them in the near future. The images on the Magician’s posters may have been drawn up quickly and without much effort or attention to detail, but they may also hint at how Mr Dark has been redesigned for the next game.

Exactly my thoughts! Why would the developers put in these references to older games, if not to tease for an appearance? Either that or they're just messing with us - but the French can't possibly be that cruel, can they? Can they?!

Shrooblord wrote:Exactly my thoughts! Why would the developers put in these references to older games, if not to tease for an appearance? Either that or they're just messing with us - but the French can't possibly be that cruel, can they? Can they?!

After years of giving up they could want to be cruel for once.

I also believe Mr. Dark will appear in Rayman Legends or later. I have nothing to add to Spiral's thoughts.

RayTunes!

I don't really think Mr. Dark will appear in RL. And I don't even want him to. It's nice having returning characters, but if R1, R2 and R3 all had their own badass final boss, why must we keep living in the past turning back to the same character over and over? I think it would be better to get over Mr. Dark and get a new enemy. And I still think Razorbeard is more likely to reappear than Mr. Dark...Just saying. However I'm not sure about this, sure it's possible to have a Mr. Dark reappearance.

The more I think about Razorbeard leaving, the more I suspect he's just cut his losses and hightailed it out of there. I mean, the guy practically beat an entire army almost single-handedly. That Pirate's not going to make the same mistake twice.

TeensieKing wrote:It's nice having returning characters, but if R1, R2 and R3 all had their own badass final boss,

André and Big Mama were pretty lame. I’d much rather have fought Mr Dark in those games.

TeensieKing wrote:why must we keep living in the past turning back to the same character over and over?

Exactly how many times has the series ‘turned back’ to Mr Dark? I can think of zero examples.

TeensieKing wrote:I think it would be better to get over Mr. Dark and get a new enemy.

You mean like in Rayman 2: The Great Escape? And Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc? And Rayman Origins?

spiraldoor wrote:

TeensieKing wrote:It's nice having returning characters, but if R1, R2 and R3 all had their own badass final boss,

André and Big Mama were pretty lame. I’d much rather have fought Mr Dark in those games.

TeensieKing wrote:why must we keep living in the past turning back to the same character over and over?

Exactly how many times has the series ‘turned back’ to Mr Dark? I can think of zero examples.

TeensieKing wrote:I think it would be better to get over Mr. Dark and get a new enemy.

You mean like in Rayman 2: The Great Escape? And Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc? And Rayman Origins?

Rayman Origins kind of turned back to Mr. Dark. He appeared in R1, you wanted him to appear in RO and he almost did and now you want him in RL again. And the series turned back to Mr. Dark when they made Mr. Dark be the evil guy in RO till the reveal.
Agree with Big Mama being lame though. André...you actually fought Reflux, who was creepy and ugly, but a decent boss.

I'd prefer a totally new badass guy rather than Mr. Dark again. To be honest, he isn't even more iconic to the series than Razorbeard or André actually. He is appeared in one game (if we don't count RO), just like the others.

Anyway I know all the points I'll give won't be shared by you, and most probably by anyone else either.

TeensieKing wrote: I'd prefer a totally new badass guy rather than Mr. Dark again. To be honest, he isn't even more iconic to the series than Razorbeard or André actually. He is appeared in one game (if we don't count RO), just like the others.

But he's the most evil and heartless of them. Razorbeard, true, is cruel and all but still has his weak sides and you know what he's capable of (which isn't much, he just commands a huge army) while André is just a joke. Mr. Dark however is evil in every way possible and you don't even know his true potential or power. Thus he's mysterious and that makes him all the more evil.

TeensieKing wrote:Rayman Origins kind of turned back to Mr. Dark. He appeared in R1, you wanted him to appear in RO and he almost did and now you want him in RL again. And the series turned back to Mr. Dark when they made Mr. Dark be the evil guy in RO till the reveal.

Mr Dark doesn’t appear in Rayman Origins at all. The developers originally planned to include him, but they didn’t. His name is mentioned exactly twice, and both occurrences are missed by most players. So no, he is not ‘the evil guy in RO till the reveal’.

TeensieKing wrote:André...you actually fought Reflux, who was creepy and ugly, but a decent boss.

Reflux was a good boss but not a good character. For a comparison of their impact on players, compare the amount of fan-art and fan-fiction depicting those characters. Compare the length of their RayWiki articles. Compare the number of comments calling out for their return. The conclusion is inescapable: Mr Dark is far more popular and enduring. He’s just cool. The character design and the aura of mystery just resonate with players.

TeensieKing wrote:I'd prefer a totally new badass guy rather than Mr. Dark again.

I’m not confident in the developers’ ability to create a better villain than Mr Dark. They’ve been trying for the last seventeen years and they still haven’t managed it. I’d greatly prefer to see another game featuring the villain we all know practically everyone likes. It’s a sure bet.

TeensieKing wrote:To be honest, he isn't even more iconic to the series than Razorbeard or André actually. He is appeared in one game (if we don't count RO), just like the others.

The number of works in which a character has appeared does not indicate how good they are.

I underline again Spiral's replies.

No character was reused again in a main game, so what's that story of "its time to create a new enemy"?

I would love to see Razorbeard back since he's my favourite villain, and quite remarkable for me. I also would like a lot to see Mr. Dark back, because he's also a quite respectable evil character due to its mysterious way to be.

Now Reflux, no thanks. He was a good boss in Rayman 3, but as Spiral said, I also don't think it was a good character. André was more like Shrek's Donkey but with Prince Charming's personality: never stop talking and annoying.

Reflux can rest close to Leptys, and André being flying around as a Red Lum, all happy.

Haruka wrote:Reflux can rest close to Leptys, and André being flying around as a Red Lum, all happy.

That was strangely poetic.

I'm pretty sure that Mr Dark is dead... I can't imagine him returning. However, I would like jano to return.

sergiomonty wrote:I'm pretty sure that Mr Dark is dead... I can't imagine him returning. However, I would like jano to return.

It explicitly showed Mister Dark leave though. I don't know how that qualifies as 'dead.'