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Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:29 pm
by Master
Louvis wrote:
Master4lyf1 wrote:Not really, the original PC's used to use a Command Line Interface, Windows uses a Graphical User Interface.
But yes, most pc's run Windows, but not all, some run stuff like linux or freeBSD for example.
If I'm correct, first IBM PC was made in 1981, first Windows OS was made in 1985, but first Windows OS with GUI was created in 1990 (Windows 3.0, I had pleasure to work on 3.14 lol).
Nice, but the point still stands that the PC predates Windows.

But:




Those look like GUI's to me.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:31 pm
by iambored2006
Rsandee wrote:
Hunchman801 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:This man, along with Steve Wozniak, has invented the second wheel, the personal computer.
Not quite.
Personal computer stands for ''PC'', which is made by Windows.
Apple has the Mac.
Please check the authenticity of the stuff you say before you say it as if it's factual. Yes, PC stands for personal computer, but the fact that when you say PC, you mean a computer running Windows, doesn't mean that Apple's computers aren't personal. In fact, they originally meant for it to be a personal computer, before Microsoft was founded, as all the computers of the time weren't personal at all. They were kinda like the computers you see at super marts, only bigger.
Windows can't make a PC, as Windows is an operating system. You meant Microsoft, the company who makes Windows, and even they don't make computers.
Before Apple created the Mac, they had computers such as "Apple I" and "Apple II". They were personal computers. The first ever personal computer was the Apple I. When it was created, DOS was in diapers. In fact, the DOS was released 5 years after the first personal computer, made by Apple. Now, I'm not saying that the first ever personal computer to be made was by Apple. There were some models by IBM, for example, but they didn't really manage to captivate the world. Let me put it this way: if Jobs and Wozniak would have not made their computer, it would have taken a lot longer for someone to create a commercially successful PC and actually start the revolution which was started by Apple.


Louvis wrote:
Master4lyf1 wrote:Not really, the original PC's used to use a Command Line Interface, Windows uses a Graphical User Interface.
But yes, most pc's run Windows, but not all, some run stuff like linux or freeBSD for example.
If I'm correct, first IBM PC was made in 1981, first Windows OS was made in 1985, but first Windows OS with GUI was created in 1990 (Windows 3.0, I had pleasure to work on 3.14 lol).
And the first Apple computer was made in 1976.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:39 pm
by Master
That is true, but the first Mac was created in 1984, whilst the first Modern Standard PC, the first IBM PC, was made in 1981.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:40 pm
by iambored2006
Master4lyf1 wrote:That is true, but the first Mac was created in 1984, whilst the first Modern Standard PC, the first IBM PC, was made in 1981.
And would you please tell me how this is relevant to the subject?

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:41 pm
by Louvis
Master4lyf1 wrote:
Louvis wrote:
Master4lyf1 wrote:Not really, the original PC's used to use a Command Line Interface, Windows uses a Graphical User Interface.
But yes, most pc's run Windows, but not all, some run stuff like linux or freeBSD for example.
If I'm correct, first IBM PC was made in 1981, first Windows OS was made in 1985, but first Windows OS with GUI was created in 1990 (Windows 3.0, I had pleasure to work on 3.14 lol).
Nice, but the point still stands that the PC predates Windows.
I forgot to mention that ._. sorry. Yes, Windows was found waay after the first PC was ever made. And, also, it's not Win 3.14, but 3.11, my bad.

Maybe it's only me, but by Grapphical User Interface definition I understand "user-friendly interface, so easy even monkey could use it".
How Win 3 used to look:
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Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:44 pm
by Master
Ah, I usually regard GUI as not using command interface.
iambored2006 wrote:
Master4lyf1 wrote:That is true, but the first Mac was created in 1984, whilst the first Modern Standard PC, the first IBM PC, was made in 1981.
And would you please tell me how this is relevant to the subject?
You stated that the first apple computer was made in 1976. There were models of PC's pre-dating the modern IBM standard, so I was merely noting the modern forms of both Apple Computers and PC's for a modern comparison.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:49 pm
by Danone
Poor Steve Jobs :(

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:54 pm
by PowerPatrick
EVERYONE...
Instead of spawning lengthy discussions, I would advice you to read these articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... _computers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... _interface

It should give you most of the exact chronology with every detail included.
I'm seriously not in mood to debunk every argument.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:08 pm
by iambored2006
Master4lyf1 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:
Master4lyf1 wrote:That is true, but the first Mac was created in 1984, whilst the first Modern Standard PC, the first IBM PC, was made in 1981.
And would you please tell me how this is relevant to the subject?
You stated that the first apple computer was made in 1976. There were models of PC's pre-dating the modern IBM standard, so I was merely noting the modern forms of both Apple Computers and PC's for a modern comparison.
Ah, yes, that makes sense.

You know, someone at my school said he heard some absurd rumours about Jobs' death. One says he died a week ago and the new iPhone was named after him (4S- For Steve). The other says he committed suicide after hearing about the "failure" of the iPhone 4S.

On another note, Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nwy2eDt ... re=related

I swear to god, I heard the beginning tune somewhere in India. I must return to that country, the minute I turn 18!

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:44 pm
by Hunchman801
iambored2006 wrote:Why not?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... _computers
Edit: PP beat me to it.
Rsandee wrote:Personal computer stands for ''PC'', which is made by Windows.
Apple has the Mac.
A Mac is a PC. End of story.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:55 pm
by iambored2006
Hunchman801 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:Why not?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... _computers
Edit: PP beat me to it.
I am well aware of this, and I addressed it in one of my previous comments.


Are girls always so small? I was in this small garden in my school when two girls came and sat down on a bench beside me. They looked about my age, maybe a bit smaller. I asked them if they are in the 10th grade, and they said they work at my school. Goddamit. The worst part was, they weren't very... how shall I put this...
progressive in their bodies. I don't want to sound chauvinistic, it's just that it is a sign of maturity and they really looked small! (the girls...)

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:58 pm
by Adsolution
Tobbe wrote:
ikke471 wrote:
Puruun wrote:
iambored2006 wrote: REALLY? WTF?! In the Netherlands?! I've always respected Holland for legalizing pot, but what the hell?!
It's not legalised, it's just not entirely forbidden.
but they don't sell it in the stores anymore because apple sued samsung (and is going to sue every store that still sells 'em)
Marihuana? :lol:
You cannut spell for the life of you.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:02 pm
by stan423321
Hunchman801 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:Why not?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... _computers
Edit: PP beat me to it.
Rsandee wrote:Personal computer stands for ''PC'', which is made by Windows.
Apple has the Mac.
A Mac is a PC. End of story.
Newer Macs are PCs (as in IBM PCs), older are not, but both are personal computers. Abbreviations may change meanings you know.
iambored2006 wrote:Are girls always so small? I was in this small garden in my school when two girls came and sat down on a bench beside me. They looked about my age, maybe a bit smaller. I asked them if they are in the 10th grade, and they said they work at my school. Goddamit. The worst part was, they weren't very... how shall I put this... progressive in their bodies. I don't want to sound chauvinistic, it's just that it is a sign of maturity and they really looked small! (the girls...)
I absolutely see what you mean and no, they are not always SO small.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:11 pm
by iambored2006
stan423321 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:Are girls always so small? I was in this small garden in my school when two girls came and sat down on a bench beside me. They looked about my age, maybe a bit smaller. I asked them if they are in the 10th grade, and they said they work at my school. Goddamit. The worst part was, they weren't very... how shall I put this... progressive in their bodies. I don't want to sound chauvinistic, it's just that it is a sign of maturity and they really looked small! (the girls...)
I absolutely see what you mean and no, they are not always SO small.
Yeah, it can be so annoying sometimes. I just thank god I didn't do the mistake the other way around. That is, ask girls my age if they work at my school...

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:22 pm
by Adsolution
I find it that guys seem to be generally taller, but there's less variation of height. However, at my friend's school, all the girls who are in high school are like 5 feet on average, whereas at my school the girls are almost around 5'9" on average. The three tallest people in my Biology class are girls (6'3", 6'2, and 6'1.5" (me)).

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:50 pm
by iambored2006
RayFan9876 wrote:(6'3", 6'2, and 6'1.5" (me)).
Man, are you tall. Taller than me by almost 10 centimeters. Oh well, I'm still hoping to gain some height in my remaining 3-5 months of intensive growth.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:40 am
by Adsolution
This is entirely my observation and obviously has no basis on fact, but I've noticed that short girls tend to be the sluttier/emo ones, whereas the taller ones are more subdued and well-mannered. (When I said emo there, I mean that around here there's so many attention seekers in the form of wannabe emos. I don't know about other places.)

Trivia: I was visiting some castles in Germany and found some ver interesting information, did you knoe that a thousand years ago men averaged a height of 5 feet and women 4'11"? There was one army suit that was built for a six foot man, and it was exceedingly rare to find someone that tall. Even more rare than finding someone who's 7 feet today.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:49 am
by Serza5
I've always thought of myself as short since nearly all of the people at my high school were much taller than me. However ever since i've come to uni i've noticed there's much more people shorter than me, including the 2 people in my group which includes a guy. I think my height (5'3") is the average here.

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:13 am
by Keane
spiraldoor wrote:
That commercial was hilarious. Funny that my brother is named Michael, which brought some irony to it. :P

Re: Off Topic

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:19 am
by Tobbe
RayFan9876 wrote:
Tobbe wrote:
ikke471 wrote:
Puruun wrote:
iambored2006 wrote: REALLY? WTF?! In the Netherlands?! I've always respected Holland for legalizing pot, but what the hell?!
It's not legalised, it's just not entirely forbidden.
but they don't sell it in the stores anymore because apple sued samsung (and is going to sue every store that still sells 'em)
Marihuana? :lol:
You cannut spell for the life of you.
Say what?