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Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:38 pm
by Hugo
I think they wanted to double-down on pure comedy and cooperative gameplay. The energy of the game is pretty infectious. I can understand downplaying story for that reason, but at least some level of effort in that direction would have gone a long way.

And while I love the wackiness, I'm not sure why the characters always look rabid in this art style. Rayman looks like he's about to turn into a werewolf and Globox looks like he's been experimenting with drugs. And don't get me started on the uninspired skins...

Credit where it's due though: the controls are fluid, the gameplay flows, the art is clean and the sound design is glorious. A lot of care has been put into the sensory experience. I think we need better collaboration with storytellers and game designers to create the balance that hits just right.

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:21 pm
by Hunchman801
I wholeheartedly agree! And back on the subject of Captain Laserhawk, I still prefer a provoking depiction of Rayman doing drugs over a braindead pervert blowing up Betilla's skirt, and speaking of which, a design for the nymphs that is borderline NSFW in the sense that I would certainly not open a RayWiki article about them at the office unless I want my colleagues to think I'm a perverted weirdo. :fou2:

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:27 pm
by Greengoop
See, Lyndo? Your opinion wasn’t unpopular at all! :lol:

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:39 pm
by Pirez
Hunchman801 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:21 pm I still prefer a provoking depiction of Rayman doing drugs over a braindead pervert blowing up Betilla's skirt
I'm okay with both as long as it serves a story, which Captain Laserhawk provides (even though I thought the sum of all parts is shallow) and Origins removed entirely.

It is, however, sad to see that it (Betilla's skirt sheananigans) was dropped because we now know all the allegations of sexual harassment that have happened within Ubisoft, some directed at Michel Ancel himself which caused him to jump ship. So it might very well have been possible that this vision of Rayman debauchery was there because the producer at Ubisoft just thought it was funny.

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:42 pm
by Greengoop
I’ve never heard of these shenanigans before, but they dropped the skirt over sexual harassment?

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:47 pm
by Pirez
Nah, they dropped the skirt bit because Rayman Origins ended up not being a prequel and therefore the bit where Rayman whirlwinded Betilla's skirt had no business remaining (since in the trailer it was done directly after Rayman creation)

If there was any issues with dubious representation of women all the nymph would have been redesigned to be less skimpy and more useful in the finished product.

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:59 pm
by Greengoop
Ahh, so they decided to make the NSFW-ness work another way? :hehe:

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:44 pm
by Pirez
I mean... It's a very well known fact that everybody loves titties.

Except captain Laserhawk, of course : he's gay.

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:53 pm
by Greengoop
What about other women?

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:45 pm
by Pirez
Het men love tits
Het women love tits (their own)
Non-het women love tits
Non-het men love tits (if they're into chubsters)

Captain Laserhawk fits into none of those category. In fact, last time he had a bear as a boyfriend, he betrayed him. This mad must loathe boobs.

(What the hell am I on about?)

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:23 pm
by lyndo64
Pirez wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:45 pm Het men love tits
Het women love tits (their own)
Non-het women love tits
Non-het men love tits (if they're into chubsters)

Captain Laserhawk fits into none of those category. In fact, last time he had a bear as a boyfriend, he betrayed him. This mad must loathe boobs.

(What the hell am I on about?)
This probably makes no sense to anyone who hasn't watched the show :lol:

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 1:47 pm
by Dumbo TV
Pirez wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:47 pm Nah, they dropped the skirt bit because Rayman Origins ended up not being a prequel and therefore the bit where Rayman whirlwinded Betilla's skirt had no business remaining (since in the trailer it was done directly after Rayman creation)

If there was any issues with dubious representation of women all the nymph would have been redesigned to be less skimpy and more useful in the finished product.
I had heard that it was supposed to be a mechanic in the game using the helicopter, is it mentioned somewhere? I can't find any sources

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:21 pm
by Greengoop
No, that’d genuinely be creepy as fuck

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:24 pm
by Pirez
Dumbo TV wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 1:47 pm I had heard that it was supposed to be a mechanic in the game using the helicopter, is it mentioned somewhere? I can't find any sources
It's shown in the very first trailer at the end if I remember correctly

Indeed, at 1:05 and 1:26 you can see it suggested again.

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:30 pm
by Greengoop
Yeah, that was the only time it was ever featured in rayman. Just because it’s in a trailer doesn’t mean it has to be canon :wink:

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:47 pm
by Barakon
lyndo64 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:14 am I hate how people are acting like CL Rayman is like the best thing since "sliced brwead." And it's really annoying seeing people treat CL Rayman is the best Rayman. It's kinda annoying.

Btw, don't look at my profile picture. When I chose it I was tired and I thought it would be kinda funny, but now it's just kinda cringe. I really don't want people thinking I'm one of those annoying Ramon stans. :lol: :oops2: :oops:
I do like Ramon, but I know he's not the best Rayman cuz in a way he's less Rayman & more Assassin Ray.

But he is the best "animated show" Rayman because to me he's the most compelling.

Yeah he fucking shoots "people" down in a bloody massacre, but I think y'all forgot something here.
  • 1. He's shooting down tyrants, basically just a more extreme version of what he usually does as a hero [fights & defeats villains]

    2. He appears to feel empty after taking his vengeance, proving Bullfrog right in a way far greater than Lazerhawk did, i.e spelling it out to the audience like a shmuck.

    3. He saved a character who was wrongfully imprisoned & put on death row [another thing he usually does as a hero that got cranked to the extreme]

    4. HE MOTHERFUCKING SLAYS UBISOFT IN A BITTERSWEET ONSLAUGHT, GUNS BLAZING! TO THOSE WHO LIKE HIM, HE IS A SENSE OF CATHARSIS FOR ALL THE BULLSHIT THIS FANDOM HAS BEEN PUT THROUGH.
It's okay if you feel icky about him being a lot tougher & cut-throat in this version. But he simply did not have enough time to get a full arc because nobody had that in this series, for it was only 6 episodes long while being written like it had 13 or even 65 of them.

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:49 pm
by Greengoop
Being a good person doesn’t inherently make you a good character

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:50 pm
by Barakon
lyndo64 wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:23 pm
Pirez wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:45 pm Het men love tits
Het women love tits (their own)
Non-het women love tits
Non-het men love tits (if they're into chubsters)

Captain Laserhawk fits into none of those category. In fact, last time he had a bear as a boyfriend, he betrayed him. This mad must loathe boobs.

(What the hell am I on about?)
This probably makes no sense to anyone who hasn't watched the show :lol:
What? I think he's just a hurt twink who needs to get some help, & that help is locked away somewhere after being saved from death row by the 1 character I thought every here would appreciate like I do...

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:50 pm
by lyndo64
I change my opinion on Ramon every other day lol, I can't decide if I like him or hate him. :lol:

Re: Captain Laserhawk

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:51 pm
by Greengoop
I thought it was funny at first, but now I’m fed up with him