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Someone please make a video?

Isn't there already one?

And what should I have to make one? I already know about FRAPS, but what then?

I dunno...what do people usually use to make videos of games?

I could try to record with camera some time.

The end of it is like a movie making place. I can't remember more except there is the photographer's board (what Rayman stands behind to save his progress in Rayman 1 levels).

I don't think there is any more new enemies after the Moskitos, though.

I like to call Bzzit Moskito's brother.

I like to call Bzzit Moskito.

I like it how Moskito is red and purple in the PS1 version. It distinguishes him from Bzzit because most people who played the other versions think they are the same character, and that is confusing when Rayman just befriended him and then fights him again.
Was it a mistake that Moskito was red in the PS version? His health meter icon shows the normal pink mosquito and I think (but not sure, because I've never completed the PS1 version, although I may use a level password since I've beaten the GBA version anyway) that the final hybrid monster (the one with Sax's body and Moskito's head) has a pink head.

It does indeed have a pink head.
And also, there is still no evedence to suggest the first mosquito is Bzzit. Whether the first and second m,osquitoes are the same is debateable, but the first one being Bzzit is currently out of the question. Until there is any evidence, I think it's silly that you call him Bzzit.

R1 DOS: All "Moskitos" are pink
R1 Saturn: All "Moskitos" are pink
R1 GBA: All "Moskitos" are pink
R1 PS1: Moskito in Anguish Lagoon is pink, Moskito that chases you in Moskito's Nest is pink, Moskito that fights you in Moskito's Nest is red
R1 Jaguar: Moskito in Anguish Lagoon is pink, Moskito that chases you in Moskito's Nest is red, Moskito that fights you in Moskito's Nest is red

Moskito's redness in the PS1 version could be explained by the reddish light in the area where you fight him, making him appear a different colour. In the Saturn, DOS and GBA versions, there's nothing at all to suggest multiple Moskitos. The Jaguar version is the only one which actually implies that there's two, and that's the earliest version. You might say that it's the "original", but I say the newer versions remove mistakes. Also, he's pink in the Jaguar betas. And the Moskito/Space Mama hybrids have pink bodies in all versions, and the Moskito/Space Mama/Mister Sax hybrid has a pink head in all versions.

And Bzzit has legs.

spiraldoor wrote:In the Saturn, DOS and GBA versions, there's nothing at all to suggest multiple Moskitos. The Jaguar version is the only one which actually implies that there's two, and that's the earliest version.

Except for common sense.

spiraldoor wrote:And Bzzit has legs.

Characters change throughout the games, especially when they need to be adapted from 2D to 3D.

Rayman didn't. He also didn't shrink.
Now look, I can't say that there aren't two Mosquitoes in R1, but despite what you say you still haven't put forth any evidence to suggest the first one is Bzzit.

Holy Crap wrote:Rayman didn't.

Holy Crap wrote:Now look, I can't say that there aren't two Mosquitoes in R1, but despite what you say you still haven't put forth any evidence to suggest the first one is Bzzit.

Sure, but do you know many purple mosquitoes that have befriended Rayman? It seemed obvious to me the first time I've played Revolution.

Maybe they are two or more separate mosquitoes, but these originate from the same family. Like the Globox family.

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:In the Saturn, DOS and GBA versions, there's nothing at all to suggest multiple Moskitos. The Jaguar version is the only one which actually implies that there's two, and that's the earliest version.

Except for common sense.

I don't really think so.

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:And Bzzit has legs.

Characters change throughout the games, especially when they need to be adapted from 2D to 3D.

So, would you say that Bzzit has legs or not?

Hunchman801 wrote:

Holy Crap wrote:Rayman didn't.

Well, he didn't change anywhere near as much as "Bzzit" did.

Hunchman801 wrote:

Holy Crap wrote:Now look, I can't say that there aren't two Mosquitoes in R1, but despite what you say you still haven't put forth any evidence to suggest the first one is Bzzit.

Sure, but do you know many purple mosquitoes that have befriended Rayman? It seemed obvious to me the first time I've played Revolution.

In most versions there aren't purple mosquitoes at all. Even later editions of R1 PS1 (Greatest Hits/Platinum) correct Moskito back to his pinkness.

spiraldoor wrote:I don't really think so.

If you thinking attacking, befriending, helping, and then attacking Rayman again sort of makes sense...

spiraldoor wrote:So, would you say that Bzzit has legs or not?

Depends on the versions, I guess.

spiraldoor wrote:In most versions there aren't purple mosquitoes at all. Even later editions of R1 PS1 (Greatest Hits/Platinum) correct Moskito back to his pinkness.

I meant light purple actually (which you call pink, not that it makes a big difference).

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:I don't really think so.

If you thinking attacking, befriending, helping, and then attacking Rayman again sort of makes sense...

If Mister Dark is controlling him (which is pretty obvious, as all bosses turn friendly when defeated, as though the spell was broken), then yeah, Mr Dark could have re-cast whatever magic it was that bent the [FRIENDLY] bosses to his will in the first place.

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:So, would you say that Bzzit has legs or not?

Depends on the versions, I guess.

So there is an un-made version of R1 in which Bzzit has legs?

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:In most versions there aren't purple mosquitoes at all. Even later editions of R1 PS1 (Greatest Hits/Platinum) correct Moskito back to his pinkness.

I meant light purple actually (which you call pink, not that it makes a big difference).

My point still stands.

spiraldoor wrote:If Mister Dark is controlling him (which is pretty obvious, as all bosses turn friendly when defeated, as though the spell was broken), then yeah, Mr Dark could have re-cast whatever magic it was that bent the [FRIENDLY] bosses to his will in the first place.

For some reason it's far from obvious to me.

spiraldoor wrote:So there is an un-made version of R1 in which Bzzit has legs?

I meant games. I posted this message at 3 AM, you know.

spiraldoor wrote:My point still stands.

What was it supposed to prove actually?

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:If Mister Dark is controlling him (which is pretty obvious, as all bosses turn friendly when defeated, as though the spell was broken), then yeah, Mr Dark could have re-cast whatever magic it was that bent the [FRIENDLY] bosses to his will in the first place.

For some reason it's far from obvious to me.

When you defeat "Bzzit", he becomes friendly and helps you. When you defeat Mr Sax, he stops attacking and starts dancing. Same for Mr Stone and (in the DOS version), Space Mama. Space Mama is seen in the credits, looking fairly harmless. Mr Skops is seen winking at the camera in the credits. A PINK Moskito is seen fishing with the Musician in the credits. A clown and a water boy are seen surfing in the credits. This shows that the enemies stopped being evil after the game, and didn't the Magician say that freaks and hostile characters appeared only when Mr Dark stole the Protoon? So there were only enemies and bosses during Mr Dark's reign. Don't you think it's possible that he was using dark magic to control them with the power of the Protoon or something?

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:So there is an un-made version of R1 in which Bzzit has legs?

I meant games. I posted this message at 3 AM, you know.

I know. But the Revolution GAME and the Rayman 1 GAME don't fit together if Bzzit is Moskito.

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:My point still stands.

What was it supposed to prove actually?

That most versions don't have a purple Moskito.

spiraldoor wrote:When you defeat "Bzzit", he becomes friendly and helps you. When you defeat Mr Sax, he stops attacking and starts dancing. Same for Mr Stone and (in the DOS version), Space Mama. Space Mama is seen in the credits, looking fairly harmless. Mr Skops is seen winking at the camera in the credits. A PINK Moskito is seen fishing with the Musician in the credits. A clown and a water boy are seen surfing in the credits. This shows that the enemies stopped being evil after the game, and didn't the Magician say that freaks and hostile characters appeared only when Mr Dark stole the Protoon? So there were only enemies and bosses during Mr Dark's reign. Don't you think it's possible that he was using dark magic to control them with the power of the Protoon or something?

Sort of makes sense, but I'm not much convinced.

spiraldoor wrote:I know. But the Revolution GAME and the Rayman 1 GAME don't fit together if Bzzit is Moskito.

Neither do Rayman 1 and Rayman 2, then. Anyway, Bzzit isn't Moskito

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:When you defeat "Bzzit", he becomes friendly and helps you. When you defeat Mr Sax, he stops attacking and starts dancing. Same for Mr Stone and (in the DOS version), Space Mama. Space Mama is seen in the credits, looking fairly harmless. Mr Skops is seen winking at the camera in the credits. A PINK Moskito is seen fishing with the Musician in the credits. A clown and a water boy are seen surfing in the credits. This shows that the enemies stopped being evil after the game, and didn't the Magician say that freaks and hostile characters appeared only when Mr Dark stole the Protoon? So there were only enemies and bosses during Mr Dark's reign. Don't you think it's possible that he was using dark magic to control them with the power of the Protoon or something?

Sort of makes sense, but I'm not much convinced.

Alright then...no point in continuing that argument.

Hunchman801 wrote:

spiraldoor wrote:I know. But the Revolution GAME and the Rayman 1 GAME don't fit together if Bzzit is Moskito.

Neither do Rayman 1 and Rayman 2, then. Anyway, Bzzit isn't Moskito

By "Moskito", I meant the first mosquito in the Dream Forest, who you think is Bzzit.