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Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:26 pm
by Serza5
If you watch the Simpsons theres an episode that shows you that we evolved from apes.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:30 pm
by Tobbe
Acarr wrote:Tobbe7 wrote:Acarr wrote:
I don't believe
we evoluved from
apes though.
In Edinburgh Zoo they say we're like 99% the same or something...yeah, sure.

Why don't you believe that. It's pretty obvious. And our DNA is in fact more than 99% the same as apes.
I dunno, but it's like we're a completely different species from them...
How? Pretty much the only big difference between us is that we have a better brain.

Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:14 pm
by Acarr
Thank god for that! OTHERWISE RAYMAN WOULDN'T EXIST!!
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:47 pm
by spiraldoor
Imagine if Michel Ancel's mother got an abortion...
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:49 pm
by Serza5
I don't want to think about that

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Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:50 pm
by Tobbe
Is that supposed to be an argument against abortion?
Okay, applying your logic, I will now present a crushing argument for abortion.
What if Osama Bin Laden's mother got an abortion?
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:51 pm
by Acarr
I see what you mean though Spiral...someone might have an abortion, without realising that that child could've been the discoverer for the cure of Cancer...etc. You never know what happens in life.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:05 am
by Holy Crap
Tobbe7 wrote:Acarr wrote:Tobbe7 wrote:Acarr wrote:
I don't believe
we evoluved from
apes though.
In Edinburgh Zoo they say we're like 99% the same or something...yeah, sure.

Why don't you believe that. It's pretty obvious. And our DNA is in fact more than 99% the same as apes.
I dunno, but it's like we're a completely different species from them...
How? Pretty much the only big difference between us is that we have a better brain.

And opposable thumbs, and less hair. But yeah, that's about it.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:08 am
by Acarr
We don't have hands instead of feet, huge cupped ears (well, maybe), giant mouths, fangs, we walk upright, we're not naked, we don't have white bum-fluff as children, we're not colourblind...
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:11 am
by Holy Crap
Since when do apes have fangs?

And in fact, a lot of people are colourblind. And we only wear clothes because...well, humans are wierd. That has nothing to do with genetics anyway. Some people do have quite big ears, and there's not much difference between walking upright and walking a little bit hunched over with your hands on the ground.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:14 am
by Acarr
I just can't see how we're
99% the same...maybe something agreeable like 75%, but not 99%...
BTW, this pic is freaky

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Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:17 am
by Cairnie
If we're on about abortion, it's cunts like the mother of Baby P [look this up, it's quite a tragic story

] that make me support abortion. No child deserves to be born to horrid parents that abuse the fuck out of their own children. >:C
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:36 am
by Tobbe
Acarr wrote:I just can't see how we're 99% the same...maybe something agreeable like 75%, but not 99%.
Our DNA is somewhere between 97-99% the same as the chimps DNA. That's not even debateable. That's a solid fact.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:37 am
by Holy Crap
We share a large portion of our DNA with mice, so chimps is hardly surprising.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:06 am
by Hunchman801
spiraldoor wrote:You're saying that a human cell is a human? Well, that's clearly not true. And when have I killed my cells?

And yes, a foetus IS human, assuming its parents are. Just because it's young doesn't mean it's another species.
As for the justice miscarriage thing: you think that convicted murderers should not be punished, on the basis that there is an extremely low possibility that he's innocent and all the evidence that points against him is a coincidence?
I'm just saying that an embryo is not more human than any of your cells (which you kill everyday by eating, walking, etc. by the way). And a foetus isn't young, it's not even born!
Sorry, but despite studying a lot of mathematics, I'm not one of those who think that statistic considerations can be applied to human lives. Not only does moral forbid us to decide of someone else's death, but what if they're innocent?
Joshua822 wrote:The problem is that science hasn't proven evolution either. That's why i said that both should be viewed at at school.
However, evolution is a likely scientific theory, whereas creationism is not only a medieval absurdity and an obscurantist view, but also a religious belief, and as I said earlier, there is no place for religion at school.
Shawn wrote:The big bang theory is nonsense though. If God didn't create everything, then what did? Nothing?
Top-notch theory if you ask me.

I've certainly not studied enough of quantum physics to talk about it, but it's clear that the “God created everything” theory doesn't make more sense than the big bang theory. Both are confronted to the same question: what was there before? I can't blame anyone for having their own opinions, but they should deeply think of their point of view before dissing the others'.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:40 am
by Shawn
I guess we'll have to figure it out once we're dead. (if we can.) Or, there wont be anything to figure out, cause our consciousness might be non-existent after death. Or maybe our Souls will go to Heaven, Purgatory, or Hell. Or we'll become ghosts (but, ghosts aren't real......I think......) and always stay in the building we died in, instead of actually using our minds and walk outside for a change.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:26 am
by Acarr
Maybe this is all a dream, and when we are asleep at night, is the real world

Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:43 am
by Xenon
There's also the point of how far space stretches. Scientifically things can't just go on and on, so there's another something to ponder about.
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:46 am
by Acarr
Maybe it's like something in Men in Black...we could just be a tiny spec on someboby's necklace...
Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:08 am
by Tobbe
There are actually quite a few followers of the belief that our universe is an advanced computer simulation conducted by some scientists in a pandimensional universe.