I know many people who do so, among my friends and my family. I totally respect their point of view, and we don't see any point in debating. Actually, only idiots debate on the existence of God nowadays, for both atheism and theism are beliefs, and none of them can be proved to be true.PluMGMK wrote:I believe in God, but not Creationism. That's my view.
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Indeed, the chances of any given world finding itself in these perfect circumstances is quite low. But consider this: The earth is part of a solar system consisting of 7 other planets and a few, smaller dwarf planets which all orbit the sun. The sun is part of a galaxy consisting of hundreds of billions of stars. While not all of those stars have as many planets as the sun, some may have many more. If we take, say 5 as an average (for the sake of simplicty) and say there are 200 Billion stars in our galaxy (estimates are between 100-400 billion) that means there could be maybe 1,000,000,000,000 planets in our galaxyAcacio Silva II wrote:[
The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.
And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.
Isn't that incredible ? Our Earth is PERFECTWe breath, because He breathed the breth of live, in to us.
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Now consider that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies. Again, these can be smaller than our galaxy but can also be even larger. However if we say that ours is roughly average (again for simplicity's sake), then there could easily be 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe. Not that there could easily be much more than that, since I mainly used low-end estimates.
So yes, the chances of any given world finding itself in the aforementioned perfect circumstances is quite low. I can't say exactly what that chance is, but say for example the chance is 1 in 200,000,000,000,000,000. Shit, that's pretty damn small. But considering there may be 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe means that there should be around 1 million "perfect" planets, and the Earth is just one of them. These calculations are no doubt innacurate, but definitely close enough to get the idea.
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I think it's very fitting that creation boy chose the day of the patron saint of lost causes to come back.
I would also like to add that the 'goldilocks zone' around the sun where a planet can harbour liquid water (which, as far as we know is the only thing that's needed for life) is much wider than you think. The Earth's distance to the sun varies with about 6 million km during every rotation. It's actually furthest away from the Sun about the time we have summer here in the Northern Hemisphere. You could actually move the Earth 38% further away from the Sun and still have liquid water, and therefore, in theory, life. That's almost as far out as Mars.
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I would also like to add that the 'goldilocks zone' around the sun where a planet can harbour liquid water (which, as far as we know is the only thing that's needed for life) is much wider than you think. The Earth's distance to the sun varies with about 6 million km during every rotation. It's actually furthest away from the Sun about the time we have summer here in the Northern Hemisphere. You could actually move the Earth 38% further away from the Sun and still have liquid water, and therefore, in theory, life. That's almost as far out as Mars.
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Anyone here believe in ghosts? I'm undecided on the matter.
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I don't - I've never seen any.
Neither have any mentally stable people I know.
Neither have any mentally stable people I know.
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Given the millions of ghost sightings throughout history which continue to this day, I get the impression that there's something there. But I doubt it's anything similar to the pop-cultural understandings of the term.
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One of my friends sighted his dead grandmother once... allegedly. I'm going to remain neutral until I see one myself though.
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Ghosts are just projections of the mind, imo. I need objectively verifiable evidence of their existance if I'm ever to believe in them. Atm everything there is is anecdotal evidence, the weakest form of evidence by far.
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Ghosts... My mind has been home to many irrational fears over the years, and yes, ghosts has been one. ATM, however, I am undecided on the matter.
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spiraldoor, on ghosts, wrote:I'm undecided on the matter.
And you're not copying me at all now.PluMGMK, on ghosts, wrote:I am undecided on the matter.
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Great news, everyone. The Bible is being ported to the Xbox 360.
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No, really. This is not a joke. This is happening. I personally can't wait to see what the ESRB will make of it.
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No, really. This is not a joke. This is happening. I personally can't wait to see what the ESRB will make of it.
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Great, but what's next?
The Koran on the 360?
The Koran on the 360?
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Bible Adventures 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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Sharia punishment for network manipulators.Rayman4321 wrote:Great, but what's next?
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Ummm WTF would someone do with a Bible on an XBOX360.I will just pick up the bible myself instead of wasting my money.BTW I'm a Christan and a Creationist.spiraldoor wrote:Great news, everyone. The Bible is being ported to the Xbox 360.
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No, really. This is not a joke. This is happening. I personally can't wait to see what the ESRB will make of it.
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RayStormGirl wrote:BTW I'm a... Creationist.
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spiraldoor

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More evidence that single-smiley posts are acceptable again.Tobbe wrote:RayStormGirl wrote:BTW I'm a... Creationist.
Annoying whining like this, however, isn't.
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Edit: How delightfully ironic that the moderators not only go around enforcing rules that they themselves fail to respect, but also use vague threats to crush any mention of this fact before attention can be drawn to it.
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Huh?I don't get it.Don't worry i won't shove stuff down your throat or anything.spiraldoor wrote:More evidence that single-smiley posts are acceptable again.Tobbe wrote:RayStormGirl wrote:BTW I'm a... Creationist.
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I just find it absurd that any reasonable person can hold the belief that life didn't gradually evolve and diversify over millions of years when every single piece of evidence that anyone has ever found points to the contrary. Hence the facepalm.
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RayStormGirl

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Oh okay.Tobbe wrote:I just find it absurd that any reasonable person can hold the belief that life didn't gradually evolve and diversify over millions of years when every single piece of evidence that anyone has ever found points to the contrary. Hence the facepalm.
Longer posts please, ok? -Acarr


