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Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:34 pm
by Holy Crap
Tobbe wrote:I just find it absurd that any reasonable person
I think this might be the problem.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:12 am
by RayStormGirl
Holy Crap wrote:
Tobbe wrote:I just find it absurd that any reasonable person
I think this might be the problem.
are you saying they're not reasonable?

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:08 am
by PluMGMK
RayStormGirl wrote:
Holy Crap wrote:
Tobbe wrote:I just find it absurd that any reasonable person
I think this might be the problem.
are you saying they're not reasonable?
That's what he's saying. Anyway, there's no point in arguing with these people on this subject - I've tried.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:17 am
by RayStormGirl
No point arguing anyways.This is a thread to state your views on religion not to argue.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:03 am
by Tobbe
But this is also a thread to discuss religion (otherwise we would't have anywhere near 80 pages), so I'd be very interested in hearing exactly why you subscribe to this particular branch of Cristianity (Biblical Creationism).

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:30 pm
by spiraldoor
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that her parents told her when she was a child and that she believed them.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:09 am
by Holy Crap
Whoa... This is a little off topic, but I thought I'd mention it. I've encountered someone on another forum who I consider to be similar to Tobbe in his general manner and way of debating. The difference is his views are in direct opposition to Tobbe's, ie he's a Catholic. Seeing him and Tobbe argue would be... interesting.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:10 pm
by Hunchman801
Well if he really is like Tobbe, they would probably come to the conclusion that both atheism and Christianity are beliefs and stop debating. It wouldn't be the case if he was a creationist, but since this theory is against all scientific evidence, anyone believing in it just can't be similar to Tobbe. Anyway, very few Catholics believe in creationism compared to Lutherans.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:06 pm
by RayStormGirl
spiraldoor wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that her parents told her when she was a child and that she believed them.
Actually There's this thing called Rainbow Express in my Town that came to my nieghborhood and told me about god.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:32 pm
by Xenon
I hope you made the decision for yourself and didn't let this 'thing' decide for you.
Holy Crap wrote:Whoa... This is a little off topic, but I thought I'd mention it. I've encountered someone on another forum who I consider to be similar to Tobbe in his general manner and way of debating. The difference is his views are in direct opposition to Tobbe's, ie he's a Catholic. Seeing him and Tobbe argue would be... interesting.
What forum is that? I'd love to see the discussion.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:51 pm
by Tobbe
RayStormGirl wrote: Actually There's this thing called Rainbow Express in my Town that came to my nieghborhood and told me about god.
What lies did they tell you to convince you that all the species of the world were created in a flurry of miracles and incantations rather than through millions of years of evolution?

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:23 pm
by PluMGMK
Hunchman801 wrote:Anyway, very few Catholics believe in creationism compared to Lutherans.
That's because of leadership. The Pope leads Catholicism, so we listen to him. He says that evolution is true. However, Lutherans look to the Bible, which says Creationism and has done so since it was written.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:39 pm
by Hunchman801
PluMGMK wrote:That's because of leadership. The Pope leads Catholicism, so we listen to him. He says that evolution is true. However, Lutherans look to the Bible, which says Creationism and has done so since it was written.
It's actually more complicated, as there's also a problem of interpretation of the Bible.

By the way, even better than Uncyclopedia and Encyclopedia Dramatica, here is Conservapedia :mrgreen:

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:42 pm
by Acarr
That Noah's ark cartoon strip is quite funny. :P

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:00 pm
by spiraldoor
Holy Crap wrote:Whoa... This is a little off topic, but I thought I'd mention it. I've encountered someone on another forum who I consider to be similar to Tobbe in his general manner and way of debating. The difference is his views are in direct opposition to Tobbe's, ie he's a Catholic. Seeing him and Tobbe argue would be... interesting.
I think we should call him 'Dark Tobbe', or perhaps 'Bad Tobbe'.

On a serious note, I think inviting him here or Tobbe to whatever forum the other guy's on so they could have a debate would be good.
Hunchman801 wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:That's because of leadership. The Pope leads Catholicism, so we listen to him. He says that evolution is true. However, Lutherans look to the Bible, which says Creationism and has done so since it was written.
It's actually more complicated, as there's also a problem of interpretation of the Bible.

By the way, even better than Uncyclopedia and Encyclopedia Dramatica, here is Conservapedia :mrgreen:
Is that site for real, or is it some kind of liberal troll site? This article amused me; is there a ridiculously far-left Liberapedia too? If not, there should be. It would be awesome.

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:10 pm
by RayStormGirl
Tobbe wrote:
RayStormGirl wrote: Actually There's this thing called Rainbow Express in my Town that came to my nieghborhood and told me about god.
What lies did they tell you to convince you that all the species of the world were created in a flurry of miracles and incantations rather than through millions of years of evolution?
No.I went to Glen Rose,TX and saw a creation museum that explained why evolution is impossible.
Been around for 25 years.
Here's a link to the site if you wanna check it out:
http://www.creationevidence.org/

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:30 pm
by Tobbe
RayStormGirl wrote:...evolution is impossible.
:boon:

More ridicule of YECs to follow...

An apetizer:

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Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:40 pm
by Cairnie
if evolution is impossible then can anyone explain to me why we all have hair on our bodies? Why our hands and feet are similar to those of primates? Hmm?

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:08 pm
by RayStormGirl
I guess you didn't view the site?
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Yes we have fossils too,

Re: Religion - your views

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:09 pm
by Phoenixan
Hunchman801 wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:That's because of leadership. The Pope leads Catholicism, so we listen to him. He says that evolution is true. However, Lutherans look to the Bible, which says Creationism and has done so since it was written.
It's actually more complicated, as there's also a problem of interpretation of the Bible.

By the way, even better than Uncyclopedia and Encyclopedia Dramatica, here is Conservapedia :mrgreen:
Or as said in shows or documentaries such as "The History of the Bible," it was the church that chose what chapters to include and which ones not to, which troubles me a little at times. Why omit information while keeping others? Really, the best guess I could make for creationism at this point in my life is just the fact that the Book of Genesis could be more poetic than literal, as is, a few other parts of the Bible.