Origin's progression is very much like Rayman and Rayman 2 - there is a map of the world and you go from place to place.
Legends doesn't give you a sense of that. You are in an exhibition and just move from painting to painting. These seem to open portals to other lands, but there is hardly a feeling of connection between it all. And then the invaded levels just make an even bigger mess out of everything.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:40 am
by Greengoop
I think they really made a mess of back to origins in RL, since so many things are on the wrong order and so many area transitions simply don’t make sense
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:45 pm
by WPTheModder
I was browsing youtube and came along some interesting videos. I may be late to post this, but I just wanted to share.
The first one I saw was a very eerie beta track for Angsty Abyss. it's like a very screechy sound, yet also sounds nice? I'm not sure how to explain. I think if I heard this while playing RO I would be scared as hell! I can kinda see why it got cut.
Second video I saw was this one, made by the same person: . It's basically just an old trailer for Rayman Origins and it includes a lot of cut/old content, such as the air animations that would blow enemies away.
Here's some screenshots of what I thought looked crazy compared to the polished game we have now.
An image displaying old co-op.
Old version of UI bar + that big eel thing.
The air animations... why do they do that?
Old version of Gourmand Land, Betilla is here instead of Edith...
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:49 am
by PluMGMK
WPTheModder wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:45 pm
The first one I saw was a very eerie beta track for Angsty Abyss. it's like a very screechy sound, yet also sounds nice? I'm not sure how to explain. https://youtu.be/GN1LvYeOxzw I think if I heard this while playing RO I would be scared as hell! I can kinda see why it got cut.
Interesting… Apparently it came from the Daily Bubble, I had completely missed this until now! It almost sounds like something from a Half-Life soundtrack…
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:06 pm
by EdgyRabbid
The thing that confused me about this game is that since it orignally was going to be Raymans orgins story... why wouldnt they use the first design? Rayman with his hoodie has the experience.. Why wouldnt you use the old design for the backstory?
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:28 pm
by Magelin
Well, the whole idea of the game being the origin story of Rayman was ditched, but yeah, you do make a good point about his design being the same one he had in later games.
I think it was used because it was more recognizable, maybe? R3 wasn't that popular, but RRR was quite popular, right? So they used that one instead?
I dunno, my head hurts
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:44 pm
by WPTheModder
EdgeRabbit wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:06 pm
The thing that confused me about this game is that since it orignally was going to be Raymans orgins story... why wouldnt they use the first design? Rayman with his hoodie has the experience.. Why wouldnt you use the old design for the backstory?
It is a prequel to R2 apparently. Maybe Rayman just likes switching up what he wears from time to time... or maybe it is a hoodie and he just likes to wear scarves over it. They also just use the R3 design for Rayman and scrap all of the other designs for the other characters? You can tell it's R3 Rayman but the rest don't have the same designs.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:25 pm
by EdgyRabbid
The Rayman timeline confuses me so much that i wrote my own canon lmao
However, Rayman is still very cute to me in this game..
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 5:20 pm
by WPTheModder
Origins was meant to fix the plotholes that R2 made but I think it would've been better if they didn't try to fix that and instead made a more cohesive story. They added more plotholes instead of fixing them
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 5:49 pm
by EdgyRabbid
^^^^
I agree with the statement, its good that the game has a good story and a cute Rayman because i dont think id like it other wise lol
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 8:19 pm
by WPTheModder
Well... I mean... There is no story if you think about it. I love origins because of the mechanics, gameplay, art/artstyle, characters and etc. First Rayman game i've ever played too.
Also, the Nymphs. Not because they're hot. I just like the designs. I'm gonna do a whole redesign series on them soon because I don't particularly like how revealing their clothing is.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:21 pm
by PluMGMK
WPTheModder wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:44 pm
It is a prequel to R2 apparently.
Where did you hear this? That is incorrect, it's just a sequel to Rayman 3.
When you think about it, it can't possibly be before Rayman 2, because it shows Rayman and Polokus together, whereas in Rayman 2 they had never met before.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 9:26 pm
by WPTheModder
Ah, dammit! I hate accidentally spreading msinformation like that. My brain is just tired I guess..
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:37 am
by Greengoop
Well, it’s quite a common misconception, so I wouldn’t be THAT down on yourself
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:49 am
by PluMGMK
That's Rayman lore in a nutshell isn't it? They screwed up the storytelling so badly that half the fandom doesn't even know what chronological order the games are supposed to be in
Not to mention the species of the deuteragonist...
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 2:37 pm
by WPTheModder
PluMGMK wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:49 am
That's Rayman lore in a nutshell isn't it? They screwed up the storytelling so badly that half the fandom doesn't even know what chronological order the games are supposed to be in
Not to mention the species of the deuteragonist...
That's weird how that's a common misconception. I'm actually surprised it is.
Also, (I had to search up deuteragonist for this) I'm assuming you mean Globox? I just thought his species was... well.. Globox. Or a Fakir since he was originally red. Or just a frog. Who knows? Atleast we know Rayman is a thingamajig.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 2:48 pm
by EdgyRabbid
YEah! The name fits prefectly for his absurd anatomy! (i know too much but lets ignore that..)
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:32 pm
by WPTheModder
I personally think it fits mainly because of how Betilla didn't even know what to call him so she settled on his species' name as a Thingamajig. Really fits in well with their marketing campaign for RO at the time where the game was labelled as "The new crazy!" or something like that.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:34 pm
by EdgyRabbid
Yes yes, I still need to finish origins lol
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:45 pm
by WPTheModder
I wish you luck! Moody Clouds is a pain in the ass though, I still need to get all of the electoons for that world...