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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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That's a good score after part 3. The extended 3MC does boost the score quite a bit. And you should have another 500 points extra in the next part from the Tribelle. It's quite a bonus overall.

What was your score after part 2?
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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my score after part 2 was 3.090, which I find OK.

I#m practicing you combo right now. didn't manage it by now, but I think it wont take long to master...
Well... I'm at it...
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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How big was your extended 3MC? And did you take the last Matuvu for 1.000 in combo with the gems on the ledge?
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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I don't exactly remember the combo, sorry. I'm pretty sure I got everything out of it though. But that's all I can say.

I took the 4th matuvus for 1.000 points in combo. At first i'll just go for an improvement. I don't think that I'll go for that 500 extra points directly afterwards, but I may get them eventually...

EDIT: Finished part 4 with 28.050 and part 5 with 36.410 points.
i played through the funky board as a test, and I think I'll end up having around 44.000 points which is a massive 2k improvement!
...never thought that I had blown that tribelle combo that much... lol
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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That's a really good score. Where did you find the points for such a big improvement?
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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I found some minor improvements throughout the whole level which boosted my score in addition to your tribelle-combo.

BTW, I'm struggling with the funky board level. I'm trying to get that one perfect and I'm still having problems with all the gems after the green gem. does anybody know how many of the gems you can collect before jumping off the level?
or does anybody know how many points you can get in funky board level?

MandM and Xenon:
Could you two list your scores here? Or can I find an updated list somewhere? After FC I'll have a litte less than 849K points and I really want to reach the big 850K now. I want to compare my scores to yours so that I can see where I can improve.

EDIT: I got it!

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What really annoys me is the fact, that I lost 30 points in part 4. Those 30 points are missing now to reach 849.000. However, I also lost these 600 points in LS 3 weeks ago, so... it's not only FC which is bugging me right now. Don't know, what to play next. Probably DOTK.

btw, Xenon, you're no longer in 2nd place :P
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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Congratulations! It's a great score.

Assuming your score of 17.710 after part 3 is accurate you have found some points either part 2 or part 3. If you get the fourth Matuvu for 1.000 points in combo, the maximum score in part 3 is 13.630 points. Doing the math 17.710 - 13.630 = 4.080 points in part 2.

The extra points in part 2 can probably only come from the Matuvu, which can be taken for either 1.000 or 1.250 points.

If you get 3.090 points in part 2, as you claim, your score in part is 14.620, which I fail to see where can come from.

Will you help us out and maybe make a video?
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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Well I just gave a look before to this topic and WOW... it must be really hard to have find out how to get a really high-score. My personal record since I started playing the game is around 460000 points :oops2: ! But it seems to be hard anyway trying to get even more points... Anyway congratulations MandM81! :D
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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mandm: ok, I looked at a screenshot which I had taken before finishing part 3 and I found a mistake. It's becuase I had 1000 points less after part 3, my total score there was 16.710.

I'm sorry for that. I just typed that wrong.
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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Doing some math again, you have in that case 28.050 - 16.710 = 11.340 points in part 4. It is a very high score and maybe you can help us out with that one?

My guess is that you choose not to tell us about your improvements in part 2. It's a little sad since you have had oceans of help from us. So I ask again, will you share your findings with us like we have with you and make a video?
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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I'm so angry that you've beaten my score by thirteen points. Thirteen points. Points that could have been gained if I didn't get hit by Hoodblaster shots in part 2 TSBTC. Graa... :grrr:

Congratulations with your new score, by the way. I'm now definitely going to play TFC to get a similar score, although I'm really reluctant. I hate TFC, do you know that? Hopefully I'll regain my position afterwards, but it'll take ages.

@ MandM: I have a theory to get some extra points in part 2 but I'm not quite sure if the combo is possible. I may need to use it though, if it is possible, to aid me with part 3.
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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I'm sorry to say so but indeed I am struggling a little bit with telling what I found. Let me do some math to explain what I mean:

According to your solution on page one, you get 3.320 points out of this room.
I get 3.360 points out of it from the combo you showed me and there are still some yellow gems to take in this room. I get 180 points from them which means I get a total of 3.540 out of this room. Also, as already said, I found some minor improvements throughout the whole level.

This means I got more out of this part than your solution allows to. However, I end up having less points than you, which means I'm not the only one hiding his combos. Right?

You helped me out a lot and I appreciate your help VERY much. Don't consider me being not thankful for your help. But how could I ever be able to the get closer to you, if I keep on telling my improvements to everyone while you're hiding them?

Seriously, I'm not angry about that. However, I see myself forced to keep my combos.

I'm sorry for that, and I don't want an argument because of that. It's just my stands on the whole situation.

EDIT:

Xenon: remember your message on youtube? you told me that you had 6 points more than me that time :P
However, imagine I hadn't lost those 600 points in LS when my savegame got deleted. I'd have way more points than you now.
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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Congratulations! It's an awesome score in the FC, by the way: What are you planing to play next? You said, you want to try this L.-Glitch in the 3rd part of SBTC, and want to get this 100 extra points in the HH. What's coming at first?
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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the first thing that's coming is +30 points in CF. Those 30 points are ideal the pass 849.000 :D
I already finished part 1 with 11.187 points.
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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Actually, I have helped you a lot and when the first time I ask you, you give me a run-around. So far I have provided:

FC: The extended 3MC, the Matuvu for 1.500 points in part 4 (incl. video), I fixed the Tribelle problem for you in part 4 (incl. video)
CF: The whole of part 2 room 1 including two major combos (video)
DOTK: Part 8 (video)
LS: The Matuvu combo in part 1
SBTC: The entire part 2 in video, the green gem for 7.500 points in combo
HH: Hint for a new max. score.

I count about a dozen combos you got from me and potentially about 15.000 extra points.

What have I got from you? No combos, no points. So I was of course hoping that when I asked you, you would be more than happy to share what you have found. I don't buy the argument about catching my score. If I was concerned about you catching me, I would never have revealed anything of the above. However I did, and I even solved your Tribelle problem, though it is not my platform. When you asked about a video of part 2 in CF, I provided it and it gained you about 5.000 points and so on and so forth.

I still hope you prove yourself to be a true sportsman and share what you have found.
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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MandM81 wrote:If I was concerned about you catching me, I would never have revealed anything of the above.
I thought about this for some time now. If this really is your only reason for showing me your combo it's not worth more than any of your and my not-shown combos.

In fact, if you call this a reason, I can simply say that I have 2 german players with a score over 830.000 points, sfn and mostwanted, each one of them only one level away from catching me.
If you consider them being too far away from me, there's still Xenon, who has only 13 points less than I do AND who is appearently playing FC right now AND who claims he MAY have found an improvement in part 2 which surely will be enough to catch me, no matter how small it is. And if his combo doesn't work, I don't want to provide the combo that makes him able to catch me again.

However, this is NOT my reason. I'm one of the oldest Raymanzone members left. And I remember a time, where absolutely everybody was happy indeed, about sharing his combos. There wasn't anyone who kept his combos. There wasn't anyone asking for a combo in return for his solutions.
In fact, if there was, it would be our turn now to give jona at least 40K points back. And I'm asuming that this is the minimum.

I'm not doing this because I'm selfish. I'm doing this because the situation demands it. everyone starts havin his secrets, and if you don't jump on that bandwagon you're going to be eaten by all the others.
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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So I gather from your reply that you will not return favours that you have asked from other players, mainly me? The help goes one way, from me to you and not the other way around.

You ask me and and I help you out. I ask you and you provide nothing more than some verbal runaround. Wow! You got class :pfff:
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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Well, then that's probably what I lost throughout the last 2 years: My class.
Anyway, I consider myself not being the only one.
I believe that whole points-collecting-stuff became waaay to selfish...

Away from that, I don't get it why the only one who has more points than me in this level is the one that keeps asking me. You know my scores after each part (and I wasn't lying when I corrected my score in part 3) . That makes the area of my improvement obvious.
Also, you indeed have more points than me and I really do believe that I wouldn't tell you anything new. And if I did I'd just allow you to increase the gap between us which I recently closed a little at least. You were ahead in knowledge in FC. Not only ahead of me but ahead of everyone here. Now I just managed to get as far as you in FC.
If I would have imrpoved the E3MC, or any other combo in part 2 or if I had improved the tribelle combo you showed me, it would've been no problem. I would have released videos already. Or at least I would have started trying to record them.

But it's none of those combos and I think I just found (or probably even imrpoved) those which you keep hiding from everyone. And that's why I hide them as well.
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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I asked you partly because I was curious about where you found the points, but I was equally curious if you, when asked, would share what you have found. I got that one cleared up very well.

I think I was behind you scorewise when you asked me about CF. Actually you asked me about a lot of things when I was behind you, so I don't buy your argument about being first or second either. As I mentioned, among other things, I gave you the video and thus the 5.000 points extra in CF.

What it boils down to is, that you want all the help you can get to improve your score, while you give nothing in return when you have a chance to do it.
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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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I understand how you see this situation. And I don't want to be seen as the guy who isn't willing to show his combos.
See, if I ever made an improvement, or if someone asked me for help, I told about it. I never had a problem with that. And I still don't have.

Only problem I have are those combos in FC you are hiding. I always thought your reason for doing this was that you fear being catched. And your sentence I quoted some posts ago really seemed to prove that. If your not hiding your combos because you don't want to be overtaken, what else is your reason? I really don't see another one.

I'm really willing to give my tips out. I just feel (or probably felt...) as if I was in a situation which forces me to keep them my secret.
I'm bloody curious about your FC improvements, I have to say. Probably more than you're about mine.
I won't take back what I said, although be aware that I know that there was a lot wrong with it.

However, as a last reason I have to say that I'm still struggling with showing my combos just because I don't want to show anything which you may have discovered before me, even if I may have improved it.
I'm well aware which impression you guys get from me for keeping those combos. I'm just not sure about this whole situation. And I can clearly say that this is because of the combos that you hide. No offense. It just irritates me... a lot.
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