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Re: Cave Story

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:12 pm
by Henchman1028
You can play it without it, but the game is in Japanese, and thats the wrong installer, the one below it is the right one.

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:25 pm
by El Dango
Both installers does the same thing.

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:01 pm
by Henchman1028
Sorry, I cant help you, my Uncle was the one who installed it since I dont know how to, so you are on your own.

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:03 pm
by El Dango
Then i won't waste too much time trying to make it work. Maybe if i get bored...

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:54 pm
by Henchman1028
You could get someone else to help you.

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:58 pm
by El Dango
Meeting someone who knows excacly how to install this game sounds like something that would never happen to me.

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:12 pm
by Henchman1028
Just play it without it, even though you cant understand what the characters are saying.

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:14 pm
by Henchman1028
...Did you at least try it?

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:27 pm
by El Dango
I can't even install it. :?

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:01 am
by Henchman1028
Here is one of the most Rayman-sounding songs in the game, it plays in the Sacred Grounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VTkwllQ8Q

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:55 pm
by El Dango
Good thing you replaced that other post.

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:29 pm
by Henchman1028
Sorry bout that.

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:50 pm
by El Dango
No problem. :wink:

Re: Cave Story

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:44 pm
by Henchman1028
Though parts of that song I showed you sound VERY Rayman-ish.

Question regarding Cave Story.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:10 am
by MetalGearChick
Yeah, so I've been hearing about a game a lot over the internet these past few months called Cave Story, and apparently it's a throwback to the old 8-bit video games. I watched a trailer on the Nintendo 3DS eShop (for the DSi-Ware version) and it looked very fun (plus, I love 8-bit games), and lots of people say it's one of the best games in recent years. But I have a question, what should I get it for? I can't decide whether I should get it for PC, DSi-Ware, or 3DS. We're getting a gaming computer soon, so I miiiiiiiiight get it for PC, but at the same time, I want to get it for DSi-Ware or 3DS. I heard the 3DS version has completely reworked graphics, which kind of ruins the charm IMO, but I might still get the 3DS version anyway.

Which version do you think I should get?

Re: Question regarding Cave Story.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:03 am
by ParadoxJuice
Isn't the PC version free?

Re: Question regarding Cave Story.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:57 am
by Adsolution
Having a gaming PC or not doesn't matter, because this game could run on a 1995 computer. I've heard from my friend who's obsessed with the game that the Wii version is the best, though I can't confirm that.

Re: Question regarding Cave Story.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:53 am
by Itooh
"One of the best games of recent years", yep, it surely is ! :)
But I would precise that it isn't just a "throwback to the old 8-bit video games". Well, it is, but not only. Cave Story is really an awesome game, and despite the graphics and the musics, he's really modern. Because the game is made by only one person, the whole is truly consistent. Aesthetic, music, gameplay, level-design, universe, scenario, dialogs, etc…

I initially wanted to buy the Wiiware version, but I changed my mind. First, because I played it three times on PC (one time with the normal ending, then the secret ending, and finally another for the fun, and to try some secrets weapons). But also because I've tried the demo, and… Well, I agree, this is a really great portage. It's beautiful, the gameplay with the Wiimote is well done, and there are some interesting bonus mode (play with Curly, Boss fight, time trial…).
BUT, I think the original is better, though. :/ First, because it's the original version. The game have been made by Pixel, a single developer, and that's why everything in the game is coherent. Cave Story is like a door in the mind of the creator. The remake is from Nicalis, a great studio. They have done a great work, but they haven't succeed to recover the spirit of Pixel's work. The musics, especially, are totally transformed. I like remix, but the new music from Nicalis are really too different from the originals, it's change completely some ambient. An example ? The main theme :
Original version
Wiiware version
Also, some other musics in the Wiiware version are totally missed. They lost all the essence of the original soundtrack, which is awesome.

But there's more. The translation is also changed. Well, Nicalis wanted to do a more faithful translation that the fan-made one. But… Some sentences of the first english translation was become famous ! Like "Huzzah", or "Somewhere, a transmission", that became on Wiiware "Oh yeah" (-_-) and "Someone's transmission" (not the same strength). Also, Nicalis took the freedom to put some jokes in the dialogues, like a "LOL" in one scene. Well, maybe it's a good idea, but sometimes it can ruins the immersion.
And to finish, on the technically side, the Wiiware version isn't really great. There are problems with resolutions, and originals musics are in a really poor quality. Yes, the Wiiware version include the original graphics and soundtrack. But that one is bad encoded, or compressed, I don't really know, but when I first heard it, it was hard. >< I so love the Cave Story's song, it's really sad that the soundtrack is so badly deserved in this remake. :( But anyway, you have to choose an option in the start screen to switch between the "old version and the "new version". And during the game, to go back to the start screen, you have to… die. Yes, there is no "back to the menu" button. :| That's clearly stupid, and in some points annoying (let's kill ourself, yeaaah, I have to take damages, again, and again, is there a way to die quicker ?).


So, finally, I would advise to choose the PC version. It's the better way to appreciate the game, and all its spirit. I don't think he needed to be "actualized". Even in a 8-bits style, and chiptune musics, he's really beautiful, and enjoyable. Maybe he's a little short, and sometime too easy (though I found the difficulty well dosed, and the final secret level is extremely hard), but he is indubitably epic. :)


Ah, and the 3DS version ? Well…
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It doesn't just ruin the charm. It's also ugly. :P
Cave Story is a 2D games, with graphics made for be in two dimensions. Put it in 3D isn't doable without having a disturbing result.
Developers, stop doing 2.5D ! 2D is prettier ! :o

Re: Question regarding Cave Story.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:29 pm
by MetalGearChick
Thanks for the info. I'll get the PC version. And I wasn't planning on getting the Wii version anyway since I never buy anything from the Wii Shop as it is, so I'm getting the PC version. But is the DSi-Ware port any good though? Because I might get it for DSi-Ware as well as PC.