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If they had enough room for an entire CD-quality soundtrack, then why didn't they include CD-quality sound effects as well?

alfman wrote:just get the original for DOS.. ^^ it's the best version imo.

What do you mean? schould i download a rom and run it on dos or buy the ps1 rayman disc and run on dos or something??
sry for my "retardness" here but.. xD I just need to know

The PC version runs under DOS. That's why you need a patch for it in XP.

Dosbox + my configs that i've posted in the "Rayman 1 XP" post works perfect.

However, if you experience that the game is going too fast, you should set the cpu cycles to 25000 or 30000 as it then doesnt go too fast, but not too slow either

and if you want music, you'll need the cd, or atleast some image-file with the music.

Well... in the pc version the music gets in the wrong order (the annoying happy song always first), or is it that its just rayman gold that has the music merged for every level? and the standalone original pc game has got the music right?

The original 1995 CD has the music right, but it's extremely rare.

4000th post BTW.

PluMGMK wrote:The original 1995 CD has the music right, but it's extremely rare.

4000th post BTW.

Ok, thanks.
Even tho its so rare im awaiting the game to arrive at my door now..
Gratz for the 4000 posts btw!!

Sigh, I have to clear up some inaccuracies in the thread for Guy123.

As a general note, the original PC version of Rayman, released by Soft Key, is fine! It includes the intro and ending movies, which none of the other rereleased versions of Rayman on PC have, as well as the music in the correct order with all of the tracks there. Personally I would say it's the best version if it weren't for having to fiddle with patches or DOSBox. It certainly loads faster than any other Rayman.

I would not recommend playing Rayman Gold or Rayman Forever for the original game. The only good they are is for extra levels. The regular Rayman PC version is what you want for the full package. Look for the regular cover with the grey "Soft Key" logo at the top.

It's also not rare at all, and had a large number pressed. I live in the United States and am old enough to remember Rayman being on nearly every $10 software shelf in major department stores the mid-90s. The Soft Key line of budget games consisting of console rereleases was plentiful and readily available. Earthworm Jim for Windows 95 is another major one they published along with Rayman. If anything, Rayman Forever or Gold are more rare.

Here's one on Ebay right now for 99 cents: http://cgi.ebay.com/99-PC-Game-RAYMAN-O ... 4a9dbf0afa

No one's going to bid because there are more auctions just like it. The one I linked to only has the CD though. There are other auctions for $10 buy-it-now that come with the original jewelcase, instructions, and inserts, which isn't bad since that's what it cost new for the PC a little after it came out, as well as one going for 95 cents with the original jewelcase. I don't know if Rayman published by Soft Key ever came with a box, since mine only came off a jewelcase rack new and sealed at a grocery store long ago. I did get Earthworm Jim in the Soft Key box, but I also know they released tons of jewelcase only sets of that as well.

spiraldoor wrote:The PC version also appears to use the low-resolution, single-layer backgrounds, though I think there's a way to play it with the proper ones? And it used crap sound effects, most notably with Tings making a 'pop' noise instead of a 'ting' noise.

The Jaguar version is terrible compared to the others. It's incredibly unpolished.

Sorry spiraldoor, this is all sorts of incorrect besides the part about the Jaguar version. PlugMGMK shows in his Youtube video exactly how to turn on the parallax backgrounds. You just go into the options and say you want "differential scrolling" on. Also both the Playstation version and PC version use the same resolution; 320x240. The sound effects are up to your preference, but they are digitized are there is definitely worse out there in the PC world.

spiraldoor wrote:If they had enough room for an entire CD-quality soundtrack, then why didn't they include CD-quality sound effects as well?

The sound effects are all digital recordings, they aren't synthesized, otherwise you wouldn't hear any speech at all in the game. This is why it requires a Sound Blaster card to play, as any regular adlib synthesized setup wouldn't play the digital sound effects. It is CD quality already, just some of the sound effects are different from other versions. Rayman was a pretty high-end DOS game for it's time, even though it comes with a Windows 95 launcher. I remember it ran too slow on my original 486 PC on it's high settings.

And now that you mention room on the CD, this might explain why the designers of later versions felt they needed to delete music and movies on Gold, Forever, and Collector. But looking at the CD space being occupied, I would personally guess it was just laziness on Ubisoft's part since it appears they would still have enough room on the CD as the actual game data doesn't take up near as much as all the music, movies, and sound. I would have imagined the extra levels would have all fit neatly into one package with the movies and correct music.

Guy123 wrote:Well... in the pc version the music gets in the wrong order (the annoying happy song always first), or is it that its just rayman gold that has the music merged for every level? and the standalone original pc game has got the music right?

I can confirm the stand alone definitely has it right. Frustrating, though isn't it?

I just bid on that auction.

Haha, hope you win! That original CD case brings back old memories for me.

I'm also wondering, after my post... Can anyone confirm the other international versions of Rayman on PC and whether they have the correct music tracks in order or not? And whether they have the intro and ending movies?

I know for instance Rayman Collector is just as mixed up as Forever and Gold, just because I own it, but I think in another thread someone stated the German version of Rayman Collector, which is called Rayman Forever (very confusing, isn't it?!), is also missing the intro and ending movies as well as the music being mixed up/missing.

Isn't there also a British PC version of Rayman 1 or Rayman Gold that has no music on it altogether as well?

Rayman Gold in the UK by Revival has no music.

syntheticgerbil wrote:Haha, hope you win! That original CD case brings back old memories for me.

I'm also wondering, after my post... Can anyone confirm the other international versions of Rayman on PC and whether they have the correct music tracks in order or not? And whether they have the intro and ending movies?

I know for instance Rayman Collector is just as mixed up as Forever and Gold, just because I own it, but I think in another thread someone stated the German version of Rayman Collector, which is called Rayman Forever (very confusing, isn't it?!), is also missing the intro and ending movies as well as the music being mixed up/missing.

Isn't there also a British PC version of Rayman 1 or Rayman Gold that has no music on it altogether as well?

Rayman 1 the ORIGINAL 1994/1995 version has all the music.

Rayman's World was the first rather unpopular version that included Rayman and Rayman Designer and a shortened soundtrack.

Rayman Gold seems to be the most popular (I don't know why) and it includes the shortened soundtrack, the original game, Rayman Designer, and 24 new levels, and the British version has no music.

Rayman Forever has a strangely altered shortened soundtrack - the jungle music is now cave music? -, Rayman Designer, 24 new levels, and Rayman By His Fans which has 60 new levels, and a fridge magnet.

Rayman Collector is only in French and includes a better version of the shortened soundtrack, it has all the cutscenes, everything Rayman Forever had, 35 new levels, and three minigames.

syntheticgerbil wrote:Also both the Playstation version and PC version use the same resolution; 320x240.

Actually, the resolution of the PC version is 316×200

Thank you syntheticgerbil for the info!! Lets just hope the one i bought has the soft key logo and blabla..
Its really a puzzle with all the versions i think xD and thanks for the parallax background thing, whatever that is.. but it sounds like eye candy

RayFan9876 wrote:Rayman Collector is only in French and includes a better version of the shortened soundtrack, it has all the cutscenes, everything Rayman Forever had, 35 new levels, and three minigames.

That's all mostly true, except the cutscenes are not on there. The files are simply missing from the disc. When you install the original Rayman PC release from Softkey, it will ask you if you want to install all of the movies, for instance, insuring you have a copy with the actual cutscenes on it. This prompt simply doesn't exist on later versions because the movie files are missing on the actual CD-Rom. The same prompt, however, can be found on Rayman Learning Games (or one of it's many titles) which uses a similar installer.

Guy123 wrote:Thank you syntheticgerbil for the info!! Lets just hope the one i bought has the soft key logo and blabla..
Its really a puzzle with all the versions i think xD and thanks for the parallax background thing, whatever that is.. but it sounds like eye candy

Yeah it's not the most important thing, it's just a layered moving background effect typical to 2D platforming games.

Hunchman801 wrote:Actually, the resolution of the PC version is 316×200

Oops, sorry, you're right, I meant 320x200 (which is close enough to the 316, I see 4 pixels worth of black is added on the sides of the screen), the native DOS resolution before games started appearing in 640x480. I was getting mixed up with video encoding sizes, which I seem to have been messing around a lot with lately.

Either way, the Playstation version wouldn't end up any different besides square vs. rectangular pixels and image sharpness variations. Then it depends whether or not you are playing the game on a PAL vs. NTSC display, the type of monitor/TV you are using, and with type of cable your system/computer is connected to your display. But in the end, the original artists all only drew those pixels once for the game in one resolution.

R1 doesn't work on my W98SE for some reason. It works but it exits out when I start a new game.

thats strange... it worked for me back in the days.. try downloading dosbox tho.. ^^

syntheticgerbil wrote:Also both the Playstation version and PC version use the same resolution; 320x240.

I think you might have misunderstood me there; I was referring solely to the quality of the backgrounds, which from what I've seen is much better in the PS1 version. I had previously heard something about it being possible to play the PC version with the better backgrounds, but I was unsure of this until now.

Compare the backgrounds of the PC and PS1 versions:


I don't know if 'resolution' is the correct term, but the PS1 background looks better to me. Does turning on the PC version's parallax scroll option also improve the quality of the backgrounds themselves?

you may want to have a screenshot of each version at the same place if you want us to compare them

alfman wrote:you may want to have a screenshot of each version at the same place if you want us to compare them

Don't be ridiculous, you can clearly see the differences.