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Re: List of ranks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:35 am
by Hunchman801
Nice draft! It looks good overall, though it feels a bit strange not to have the bosses ordered by importance, at least within their respective games.
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:27 pm
by PluMGMK
Well, maybe we should order the bosses by overall importance! That's what I tried to do with normal enemies and Teensies, which I did not group by game. I guess the guardians should be closer to Jano, given that they were all created by Polokus?
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:14 pm
by Hunchman801
Yeah, I think it would make sense, too.
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:49 am
by Elite Piranha
Not gonna lie, I really liked the idea of having a Razorwife rank, but I guess her direct equivalent would be the wife/girlfriend of Razorbeard's nemesis, Raynette (and I don't know if she even qualifies to be included). Also, I wonder if it would make sense to put Clark with Axel or another bulky and physically strong character. About Carmen, she could be paired with the Piranhas that pursue her because of her bubbles.
Edit: Razorwife could also be paired with Tily or Globette, sicne they're the only females of their respective teams in Rayman M/Arena/Rush.
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:15 pm
by PluMGMK
Well, we could put Razorwife with Ly, even if the tacit acknowledgement of Ray×Ly probably wouldn't sit well with everyone.

Possibly less than 1/sqrt(3) of the population based on the margin of error of
this poll, but that's a lot!

Even ignoring Ray×Ly, it still makes enough sense I think…
At this point, I'm thinking of putting the guardians up with the fairies to have them near Jano, like I was saying to Humch, but then that would mess up what we were saying before about pairing Umber with Foutch. Not sure about Carmen with the Piranhas either, since she's a unique character, while they're generic enemies…
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:00 am
by Elite Piranha
PluMGMK wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:15 pm
Not sure about Carmen with the Piranhas either, since she's a unique character, while they're generic enemies…
True, however if that's the case Gonzo can't be paired with the Knaaren.
Also, about Sssam, I was thinking that he could be paired with Razoff, since he seems to have captured Sssam (or one of his kind) in the past. Another option could be Eig, but its seems that his alignment is not clear.
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:34 pm
by PluMGMK
I've made another update. I'm really struggling to come up with characters to fill in the slots opposite Holly Luya, Edith Up and Helena Handbasket. It'd be easier if we had actual pictures of some of the more mythical bad guys, like Palmito and (maybe) Leptys!

I think I'll need to rearrange it somehow to make it all work, but I still think the fairies should be grouped together, preferably near the top. Anyone got any more suggestions?
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:55 pm
by Elite Piranha
PluMGMK wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:34 pm
I'm really struggling to come up with characters to fill in the slots opposite Holly Luya, Edith Up and Helena Handbasket.
If you include Grolem 13, maybe you can fix this problem:
Annetta Fish - Axel (water)
Holly Luya - Umber
Edith Up - Foutch (fire)
Helena Handbasket - Grolem 13 (thunder)
Also, maybe Murfy (R3) could be paired with the Spyglass Pirate, since both of them are sidekicks of the main characters. The Spyglass Pirate could also be paired with one of Globox's children, since he races against them in the bonus minigame.
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:05 pm
by PluMGMK
OK, I managed to solve the problem by bringing Umber back to the bad side, and including the Spyglass Pirate as a sidekick as you suggested. But I put the latter opposite Globox instead, since he's more like Rayman's sidekick in a lot of cases. Also, the fairies are no longer in the order encountered in Origins, but I don't think that's such a big deal.
So, it's basically finished now, but the number of levels is an awkward 69. (One more would make it 70 – Tily anyone?

) I welcome everyone's feedback – as a reminder, the list is here:
https://raymanpc.com/wiki/en/User:PluMG ... evelopment
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:47 pm
by Steo
PluMGMK wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:05 pm
So, it's basically finished now, but the number of levels is an awkward 69.
At least people can call it the funny number.
PluMGMK wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:05 pm
(One more would make it 70 – Tily anyone?

)
I wouldn't mind it too much.
I guess there could be a second Globox (pre-UbiArt form) if there's anyone for him to pair with, but I don't know if there's much point in this. I guess it depends.
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:01 pm
by iHeckler9
PluMGMK wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:05 pm
OK, I managed to solve the problem by bringing Umber back to the bad side, and including the Spyglass Pirate as a sidekick as you suggested. But I put the latter opposite Globox instead, since he's more like Rayman's sidekick in a lot of cases. Also, the fairies are no longer in the order encountered in Origins, but I don't think that's such a big deal.
So, it's basically finished now, but the number of levels is an awkward 69. (One more would make it 70 – Tily anyone?

) I welcome everyone's feedback – as a reminder, the list is here:
https://raymanpc.com/wiki/en/User:PluMG ... evelopment
Aren't there negative ranks too? I seem to recall Hardrox (good) vs Begoniax's toilet (evil), they may b worth putting on the page if they're still around
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:04 pm
by PluMGMK
Hardrox is the default negative rank for both good and evil. The toilet is a special rank. But yeah, I'll put Hardrox there for clarity!
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:16 pm
by Fifo
PluMGMK wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:05 pm
So, it's basically finished now, but the number of levels is an awkward 69.
Haha!
Sorry, I just had to.
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:28 pm
by PluMGMK
I know, I know, I think even the wording of my post could have been more careful.

Re: List of ranks
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:55 pm
by Steo
I told you it was the funny number!

Re: List of ranks
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:29 pm
by Hunchman801
Nice work! Now what about the Ting thresholds?

Re: List of ranks
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:34 pm
by Elite Piranha
If possible I would like to share my own list of ranks (which would be Plum's list but with some changes).
Re: List of ranks
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:36 am
by PluMGMK
Please do! I guess you can make your own wiki user-sub-page, or however you want to do it.

Re: List of ranks
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:36 am
by Hunchman801
You could also sneakily edit PluM's list...

Re: List of ranks
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:20 am
by Elite Piranha
Sorry for the delay, I'll try to post my list this weekend.