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Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:50 pm
by DandyGuy
here is stone man biped rigged and ready to animate
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Re: Rayman: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:59 pm
by Shrooblord
RayFan9876 wrote:Also I remember you thought I was actually a year or two older than you. How old are you? Just curious.
--Extract from post no. 5974, Case File 'Rayman Origins', subject: user_Shrooblord+user_age--
Shrooblord wrote: Hmm, I know that feeling. I used to make comics about this character I invented - phew... lemme think - 6 years ago. Well - the character starred in his very own comic the day I invented him. Ever since I've made like, five, maybe six comics in total with him in it. Some longer, some as short as one page long. Though I really liked the 'series' since all characters in it had a real history behind them, almost. As much history as a 10-year old could imagine, in any case. (Wups now my age is on the webs.)
Ah... good ol' comics of Fluffy the, well, let's see if I can translate this properly, Fluffy the Ball of Fluff. Hmm... not quite as charming in English. Lol it does sound really kiddy now though... haha. I think the main bad guy (called 'It') was based on Razorbeard a bit, now I recall him, since he also had a clumsy robot lackey, though he himself was not a robot... he does have yellow eyes though.

So: I am 16. :D

PS

What did you think of my response to your Muse video? ............ I mean... not the... y'know... 'obvious one'...
oh heck I'll just say it - not the visible one.
Teehee... *still blushing*


PPS
You are evil if you quote me and don't make an effort to read that. >:|

EDIT:
Hang on, rigs? But I thought you said you don't use them, Rayfan?

Re: Rayman: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:02 pm
by DandyGuy
Shrooblord wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:Also I remember you thought I was actually a year or two older than you. How old are you? Just curious.
--Extract from post no. 5974, Case File 'Rayman Origins', subject: user_Shrooblord+user_age--
Shrooblord wrote: Hmm, I know that feeling. I used to make comics about this character I invented - phew... lemme think - 6 years ago. Well - the character starred in his very own comic the day I invented him. Ever since I've made like, five, maybe six comics in total with him in it. Some longer, some as short as one page long. Though I really liked the 'series' since all characters in it had a real history behind them, almost. As much history as a 10-year old could imagine, in any case. (Wups now my age is on the webs.)
Ah... good ol' comics of Fluffy the, well, let's see if I can translate this properly, Fluffy the Ball of Fluff. Hmm... not quite as charming in English. Lol it does sound really kiddy now though... haha. I think the main bad guy (called 'It') was based on Razorbeard a bit, now I recall him, since he also had a clumsy robot lackey, though he himself was not a robot... he does have yellow eyes though.

So: I am 16. :D

PS

What did you think of my response to your Muse video? ............ I mean... not the... y'know... 'obvious one'...
oh heck I'll just say it - not the visible one.
Teehee... *still blushing*


PPS
You are evil if you quote me and don't make an effort to read that. >:|

EDIT:
Hang on, rigs? But I thought you said you don't use them, Rayfan?
i think that was for rayman or something but one thing i learned about video games are that rigs are almost the most important part(paul neil said that)

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:21 pm
by Adsolution
(I'm reposting this because I totally changed what I said with more stuff.)

Well I said I would prefer not to have body rigs for limbless characters, because if you think about it, do limbless people have bones in their arms and legs? No they do not, because they don't have arms legs. However their hands, torsos, faces and feet do, which is why I prefer to have only those rigged.

So that3Dguy, when you make rigs for me can you leave the arms and legs without a rig and unconnected? I'm not trying to sound mean at all or anything, it's just a request. :)

I can't figure out how to rig properly. Every tutorial I've looked at doesn't explain things properly through my own perception. Would you be so kind as you rig Rayman's face, torso, hands and feet if I give you the model? I'll give you some tings if you want.

In the torso I'd want three bones: and upper, middle, and bottom.

In the feet: back, middle, and front.

In the hair: base, end.

The face you can do later because it's probably a lot more complicated. In the face: jaw up-down, mouth corners up-down (smile-frown), narrow-wide (ooh-eee), eyes, eyelids, left-outside brow up-down, left-inside brow up-down, right-outside brow up-down, right-inside brow up-down.

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:48 pm
by DandyGuy
RayFan9876 wrote:(I'm reposting this because I totally changed what I said with more stuff.)

Well I said I would prefer not to have body rigs for limbless characters, because if you think about it, do limbless people have bones in their arms and legs? No they do not, because they don't have arms legs. However their hands, torsos, faces and feet do, which is why I prefer to have only those rigged.

So that3Dguy, when you make rigs for me can you leave the arms and legs without a rig and unconnected? I'm not trying to sound mean at all or anything, it's just a request. :)

I can't figure out how to rig properly. Every tutorial I've looked at doesn't explain things properly through my own perception. Would you be so kind as you rig Rayman's face, torso, hands and feet if I give you the model? I'll give you some tings if you want.

In the torso I'd want three bones: and upper, middle, and bottom.

In the feet: back, middle, and front.

In the hair: base, end.

The face you can do later because it's probably a lot more complicated. In the face: jaw up-down, mouth corners up-down (smile-frown), narrow-wide (ooh-eee), eyes, eyelids, left-outside brow up-down, left-inside brow up-down, right-outside brow up-down, right-inside brow up-down.
ok :wink: but remember the facial rigs well be done in a week or 2. and do you want control objects?

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:48 pm
by Adsolution
that3Dguy wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:(I'm reposting this because I totally changed what I said with more stuff.)

Well I said I would prefer not to have body rigs for limbless characters, because if you think about it, do limbless people have bones in their arms and legs? No they do not, because they don't have arms legs. However their hands, torsos, faces and feet do, which is why I prefer to have only those rigged.

So that3Dguy, when you make rigs for me can you leave the arms and legs without a rig and unconnected? I'm not trying to sound mean at all or anything, it's just a request. :)

I can't figure out how to rig properly. Every tutorial I've looked at doesn't explain things properly through my own perception. Would you be so kind as you rig Rayman's face, torso, hands and feet if I give you the model? I'll give you some tings if you want.

In the torso I'd want three bones: and upper, middle, and bottom.

In the feet: back, middle, and front.

In the hair: base, end.

The face you can do later because it's probably a lot more complicated. In the face: jaw up-down, mouth corners up-down (smile-frown), narrow-wide (ooh-eee), eyes, eyelids, left-outside brow up-down, left-inside brow up-down, right-outside brow up-down, right-inside brow up-down.
ok :wink: but remember the facial rigs well be done in a week or 2. and do you want control objects?
Alright that's fine. :) For the time being I care more about the other stuff listed that wasn't the facial rig, so you don't have to worry about that yet.

What are the advantages to having and not having a control object?

Also I decided to scrap the Rayman M/Arena hair and redo it myself. I tried to make it as close the "photo" hair as I could:
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Next up I'll work on the shoes and torso.

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:08 pm
by DandyGuy
well you dont have to grab the bones to move it

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:25 pm
by Adsolution
that3Dguy wrote:well you dont have to grab the bones to move it
If the controllers are there can I grab the bones anyway?

Sorry, I'm just making sure by asking lots of questions. :)

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:28 pm
by DandyGuy
RayFan9876 wrote:
that3Dguy wrote:well you dont have to grab the bones to move it
If the controllers are there can I grab the bones anyway?

Sorry, I'm just making sure by asking lots of questions. :)
yes and no (depending if i need to add constraints)

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:31 pm
by Adsolution
that3Dguy wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:
that3Dguy wrote:well you dont have to grab the bones to move it
If the controllers are there can I grab the bones anyway?

Sorry, I'm just making sure by asking lots of questions. :)
yes and no (depending if i need to add constraints)
Try to make it so I can grab either the bones or the controller. Is that doable?

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:59 pm
by DandyGuy
RayFan9876 wrote:
that3Dguy wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:
that3Dguy wrote:well you dont have to grab the bones to move it
If the controllers are there can I grab the bones anyway?

Sorry, I'm just making sure by asking lots of questions. :)
yes and no (depending if i need to add constraints)
Try to make it so I can grab either the bones or the controller. Is that doable?
yes... yes it is :proud:

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:44 am
by Adsolution
that3Dguy wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:
that3Dguy wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:
that3Dguy wrote:well you dont have to grab the bones to move it
If the controllers are there can I grab the bones anyway?

Sorry, I'm just making sure by asking lots of questions. :)
yes and no (depending if i need to add constraints)
Try to make it so I can grab either the bones or the controller. Is that doable?
yes... yes it is :proud:
Awesome. :)

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:43 am
by Adsolution
Hi-poly "photo" Rayman is coming along great! Take note of the hair and feet so far (I completely redid them from scratch). Also on a sidenote, I've fixed the issue of Rayman's right foot being numb! Apparently whatever was first on the list to export to CE3 (of Rayman's limbs) got frozen, so I just made an invisible replacement and it all works perfectly.

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Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:24 am
by Rayman3DS
This is just to awesome! I checked the Dream Forest gameplay out, and holy shit you are an amazing women!
Good job! :D

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:06 am
by Adsolution
Rayman3DS wrote:This is just to awesome! I checked the Dream Forest gameplay out, and holy shit you are an amazing women!
Good job! :D
Why thank you Rayman 3DS. :)

At the moment I'm working on the scarf/kerchief.

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:39 am
by beebo44
Awesome stuff Rayfan1 Just one thing, I think the circle on Rayman's Torso looks a bit smudgy, it should be more shaped like a regular circle. (Again just my opinion no criticism intended.)

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:52 pm
by Adsolution
beebo44 wrote:Awesome stuff Rayfan1 Just one thing, I think the circle on Rayman's Torso looks a bit smudgy, it should be more shaped like a regular circle. (Again just my opinion no criticism intended.)
Of course. :oops2: Loosen up a bit.

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:36 pm
by stan423321
Indeed, torso is only thing to fix in this beautiful model.

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:23 pm
by Master
RayFan9876 wrote:Image
I don't know why, but I find Rayman quite cute looking in that image.
I anticipate the final results of your remodelling, you really are giving Rayman the Hi-Def look he deserves

Re: Rayman 1.5: Revenge of the Dark

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:34 pm
by Adsolution
If you think he looks cute now, wait til you see him with his new scarf! :winkgrin: I'm at school right now but I'll put up a picture tonight.

In my opinion, I think I've got the perfect look for what I'm going for. I also wish to improve the eyelids/brow area.