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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:02 pm
by sfn42
MandM81 wrote:Cut has always denied to provide any evidence of his scores. A screenshot or a score in HoF would thus change the situation a bit. By doing one or the other he would have laid his cards on the table and we would have something tangible to dig into.
He actually posted a screenshot of his TLS-score on TSF about a year ago. Sure it didn't show his current total score, but it's something...
Several times you have said that a screenshot or a score in HoF doesn't prove a thing. Well, what do you suggest we do then? Try to establish a character reference for Cut? And then what, ban him from the forum?
Cut's score would make him the fifth/sixth best player of the world behind you (MandM), CC, Xenon, me, jona (and mostwanted - I don't know his current score but I think it's somewhere in the 830000s). The five of us have shared tips in the past, made videos about the combos/techniques we invented/designed, wrote solutions, tried to help others when they were struggling etc. etc. Cut has done none of these things. He promised a video of the extended shoe-combo, yet he never made it. He said he'd found an improved combo in part 3 of TLS, yet he never revealed it. He bragged that he could easily do the launching glitch in the snowboarding part, yet he never explained his technique. That may be a starting point...

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:19 pm
by MandM81
It seems we agree on the next step. If he provides some sort of documentation for his scores, we will go for the details. And if Cut is adamant he will make peace, it will be only natural that he talks about his combos in TLS and make videos as well. He's got some work ahead of him. :D

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:53 pm
by Xenon
Yeah, any PC player can use Mostwanted's trick so he'll have to make more of an effort to prove his innocence. Most players with impressive scores like Cut's seem happy about discussing gameplay and score progression, so I see no reason why he can't commit himself to such talks too.

An HOF entry would start the ball rolling though.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:49 pm
by Cut
Lessons to be learned, work to be done ;)

But I have to say, that it will take 2 another weeks with my scores, because on holiday, I won't have a PC. I'm living in a children's home, so it's not so easy with the PC.

The LS-Combo (which gives 20 extra points :shock:) I told DTUCC. It's just this thing: In part 3, where the platform-jumping-stage is, you have to enter the room, take the crowns and do this following trick: go to the ridge, press "moving sidewards" and roll down. You will fall a little bit faster, and can take the crowns on the ground in combo. DTUCC said, he knew about this, but on the GC he don't need the trick. I don't know whether this is new for anybody, or whether the trick is actually recommended here, but maybe it could help at other places.

The download is 57% completed (yes, we got bad internet and I got a bad torrent :x), but I hope you can understand it.

And if there is anything I can do for the community, tell it :)

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:50 pm
by Haruka
The crowns make me wonder something...

It doesn't seem possible to get a bigger combo of the crowns from part 3 (where are in zig-zag with 3 moving platforms and on the corner there is a blue room with crowns)... is that correct?

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:16 pm
by MandM81
Hmm, I'm not sure exactly what room you are referring to. You want to combine some crowns with some other crowns in a blue room?

It's always worth exploring LS further, but can you tell me where we are in part 3, maybe post a screenshot? Then I'll look into it.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:07 pm
by Haruka
MandM81 wrote:Hmm, I'm not sure exactly what room you are referring to. You want to combine some crowns with some other crowns in a blue room?

It's always worth exploring LS further, but can you tell me where we are in part 3, maybe post a screenshot? Then I'll look into it.
Watch minute 2:05.


Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:39 pm
by MandM81
Thanks for the video. I have never been able to combo any of the crowns in the blue room with a crown outside the room. However, you can get at least two of the three crowns around the moving platforms in combo. That's merely ten points but nevertheless.

While it is not possible to combo any crowns inside the blue room with any crowns outside, it is worth investingating if it is possible to combo two crowns around the moving platforms with the batch of crowns around the corner where you enter the room. I'll bet it will be close. Haven't done it myself though, but I'll try one day.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:48 pm
by Haruka
I guess I must bring back inspiration to try to boost up my scoring.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:22 am
by sfn42
Maybe, it's because I haven't played the level for such a long time but it seems pretty shitty to describe locations and explain combos in TLS. Probably because the whole level only consists of crowns and moving platforms...

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:57 am
by Haruka
I don't know which level I should try to boost my scoring, maybe the TOTDK.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:25 pm
by MandM81
Maybe you can go for the level where your score is lowest?

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:07 pm
by sfn42
Improvement in Rayman 3 is all about motivation. Just play the level you can motivate yourself for, the level you want to play. If you do that, you'll succeed.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:13 pm
by Xenon
I always found the crowns in TLS hard to play with. There seems to be a slight delay between running into the crowns and actually collecting the 10 points. I was more interested in comboing the Matuvu in part 3 but I'm not sure it's possible because of this delay.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:23 pm
by Haruka
Xenon wrote:I always found the crowns in TLS hard to play with. There seems to be a slight delay between running into the crowns and actually collecting the 10 points. I was more interested in comboing the Matuvu in part 3 but I'm not sure it's possible because of this delay.
What I could do with the Matuvu was spotting him and quickly climbing up the wall with the crowns in combo.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:26 pm
by sfn42
I don't think you can combo that Matuvu because you can't take it from the position of a crown.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:13 pm
by Xenon
I believe it could be taken using the Matuvu trick but the crowns make it nearly impossible to activate, as I mentioned earlier.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:18 pm
by Haruka
Yay, improved scoring. :D

TFC - 29758

CF - 70808

TBOM - 42400

TLOTLD - 99594

TDOTK - 71845

TLS - 40760

TSBTC - 45689

HH - 63455

TTOTL - 61871

Total score: 526180

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:21 pm
by Xenon
Well done! :D

Was TDOTK the level in which you made the improvement? If not, I'd suggest replaying that next.

Re: Rayman 3 Scores

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:31 pm
by sfn42
Xenon wrote:I believe it could be taken using the Matuvu trick but the crowns make it nearly impossible to activate, as I mentioned earlier.
I believe the delay would work rather favorable in that situation. There's just no crown adequately positioned to take the Matuvu after it.

@Haruka: There's still much for you to improve but if you keep playing the 600000 will be close very soon.