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Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:31 pm
by Adsolution
Okay, we get it, Christianity obviously isn't the only religion in the world. Is that all you were trying to say?

Anyway, I think your biggest mistake in this iambored is that you believe someone who doesn't belong to a certain group can never understand the feelings of another group (e.g. an Atheist understanding spirituality) and I just gave you a perfectly good reason why you're completely wrong. Like I said that you completely ignored, I used to be a Christian until about two years or so ago. I understood spirituality and I still do.

But now I'm expecting you to say that Christianity doesn't count.

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:16 pm
by Keane
Your statement makes sense to you, but not to the rest of the religious people. Christians will have a theory about God making your sounds senseless, so will Islam, Mormons, Buddhism, and all the others. How do you know your religion is correct? People claim Christianity to be just as real as your religion.
Why wouldn't religions that don't exist be correct? What if it turns out the Romans and their Gods were correct? It all depends simply on what the family believes that you are born in, unless you are one of the few that switches religion or becomes and Atheist.
I have to agree that 'converting' to Christianity is an abominable concept. I have encountered a Christian that wanted to read trough the Bible and then convert me, thinking I would agree on such a melancholy thing. What will happen to the United States if their new president is acts zealous about religion?

When I was talking about donating money I meant Jesus in general. According to Mormons the lords wants to donate money to the Church, and it is a ridiculous amount. There is a rather poor family close to where I live, which could also use that money to spend on all of their problems.

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:44 pm
by iambored2006
RayFan9876 wrote:Okay, we get it, Christianity obviously isn't the only religion in the world. Is that all you were trying to say?

Anyway, I think your biggest mistake in this iambored is that you believe someone who doesn't belong to a certain group can never understand the feelings of another group (e.g. an Atheist understanding spirituality) and I just gave you a perfectly good reason why you're completely wrong. Like I said that you completely ignored, I used to be a Christian until about two years or so ago. I understood spirituality and I still do.

But now I'm expecting you to say that Christianity doesn't count.
I am tired of this sickeningly eurocentric world, and that is expressed in the most despicable way by what I said about Christianity. That's all I'm trying to say.
And as I said before, you and Tobbe were right. I shouldn't have used the word atheist. If you had read what I said earlier, you would have known how much your last sentence is wrong.

RayTunes wrote:Your statement makes sense to you, but not to the rest of the religious people. Christians will have a theory about God making your sounds senseless, so will Islam, Mormons, Buddhism, and all the others. How do you know your religion is correct? People claim Christianity to be just as real as your religion.
Why wouldn't religions that don't exist be correct? What if it turns out the Romans and their Gods were correct? It all depends simply on what the family believes that you are born in, unless you are one of the few that switches religion or becomes and Atheist.
I have to agree that 'converting' to Christianity is an abominable concept. I have encountered a Christian that wanted to read trough the Bible and then convert me, thinking I would agree on such a melancholy thing. What will happen to the United States if their new president is acts zealous about religion?

When I was talking about donating money I meant Jesus in general. According to Mormons the lords wants to donate money to the Church, and it is a ridiculous amount. There is a rather poor family close to where I live, which could also use that money to spend on all of their problems.
How? How did you manage (again) to miss my point so menacingly?! Are you doing it on purpose? Are you, Raytunes? Will you please just reread my post and think before replying?

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:11 pm
by spiraldoor
iambored2006 wrote:I am tired of this sickeningly eurocentric world, and that is expressed in the most despicable way by what I said about Christianity. That's all I'm trying to say.
What would you prefer? A Jew-centric world?

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:33 pm
by iambored2006
spiraldoor wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:I am tired of this sickeningly eurocentric world, and that is expressed in the most despicable way by what I said about Christianity. That's all I'm trying to say.
What would you prefer? A Jew-centric world?
Absolutely not! I want the attention in every area of academics to be divided equally between every part of the world. I asked my history teacher and he said that the only exposure we'll have in school to the far east is through the opium wars! How fucked up is that! Do you know why that is? Because Europeans used to be so full of themselves (that is, until they saw what their aggressive personality can do, 70 years ago), they started shoving their balls down other people's throats all the time (I'm mainly talking about colonies, but also how Europeans adore their so called "ethic and artistic culture"), and with Jews' disgustingly submissive personality, they started to adore the taste. Now every Jew in this fucking country takes every opportunity he gets to lick European balls! I will not have any part in that! The east has produced far greater inventions and had a much richer culture, why can't we learn about them all the time?! Why can't we have Buddhism or Islam or even Judaism as the archetype of religion?! Why do we have to pick the most unoriginal, twisted and aggressive religion?! I'll tell you why- do you know what my copy of the new testament's blurb says? "The wisdom and guidance of the new testament has brought joy, peace and transformation to millions of people over the last two thousand years..."
You have to have your head pretty deep up your ass to believe those lies. Most people do. They used to be called Europeans. Now they're called human beings.

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:16 pm
by Adsolution
That's a complete stereotype about Europeans that I've actually never heard of before. On top of that you said yourself it was old, so your opinion of Europeans is based off an old and cold stereotype. I'm European and I don't believe any of those things you mentioned Europeans believe. If even one person objects as such that means your inductive post makes no sense. I've never known Jews to have a "submissive" personality, nor have I ever heard that stereotype before.

Why can't we have Judaism or Buddhism as an archetype religion? Well because Christianity seemed to be the most convincing and scared people the most. That was decided like a thousand years ago and bringing that up has nothing to do with anything that happened in Europe in the last thousand years.

iambored2006 wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:Okay, we get it, Christianity obviously isn't the only religion in the world. Is that all you were trying to say?

Anyway, I think your biggest mistake in this iambored is that you believe someone who doesn't belong to a certain group can never understand the feelings of another group (e.g. an Atheist understanding spirituality) and I just gave you a perfectly good reason why you're completely wrong. Like I said that you completely ignored, I used to be a Christian until about two years or so ago. I understood spirituality and I still do.

But now I'm expecting you to say that Christianity doesn't count.
I am tired of this sickeningly eurocentric world, and that is expressed in the most despicable way by what I said about Christianity.
I didn't mention Europe once. :boon: Where did this come from?
iambored2006 wrote:That's all I'm trying to say.
And as I said before, you and Tobbe were right. I shouldn't have used the word atheist. If you had read what I said earlier, you would have known how much your last sentence is wrong.
And if you would have read what you were quoting I didn't specify Atheist, I used it as an example.

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:10 pm
by iambored2006
RayFan9876 wrote:That's a complete stereotype about Europeans that I've actually never heard of before. On top of that you said yourself it was old, so your opinion of Europeans is based off an old and cold stereotype. I'm European and I don't believe any of those things you mentioned Europeans believe. If even one person objects as such that means your inductive post makes no sense. I've never known Jews to have a "submissive" personality, nor have I ever heard that stereotype before.
I'm not talking about "the common European", I'm talking about the essence of European culture. Europe's history is filthy with snobbish putzes saying that their culture is above all others. It started with the Greeks who, mind you, did actually have some sort of culture. They started destroying the world with unwanted colonies in Roman times and finished polluting every nook and crany in this goddam world in colonial times. By then, it was too late. I really wish the Turks would have continued to rule over Israel. Then Israelis would have had hookahs to wrap their lips around instead of British balls. Can I get an explanation as to why I learn in school about Europe instead of the other 70%+ of the world? Oh, but I already have one- I live in an exhaustingly eurocentric society, and the fault, as I have said earlier, lies on Europeans. What I'm talking about can be called the European mentality. It has been this way ever since Hellenistic times. They conquer and impose their culture and religion on the conquered. The reason you haven't heard of all those things is because even when you do, your subconscious tells you they're false because you're European. That's not a bad thing, it's only natural, but it is still so, whether you like it or not. And the fact that Jews are submissive is not a stereotype. It is not something you'd hear an antisemite say. I, as an Israeli Jew, can tell you just how much Jews like to be spanked and then try to be like their masters. German Jews were the worst. Thank god I don't see those Jews often, I'd go insane. You see, in Hebrew, there are two words- Yehudi and Yehudon. Yehudi means Jew and Yehudon is a translation of insults like... I don't know, fill this space with an insult to Jews. The suffix "-on" means small, and it means a Jew who, no matter what gentiles do to him, tries to be like them, converts his religion and acts exactly like them. A lot of Jews are Yehudons. I am not.

RayFan9876 wrote:Why can't we have Judaism or Buddhism as an archetype religion? Well because Christianity seemed to be the most convincing and scared people the most. That was decided like a thousand years ago and bringing that up has nothing to do with anything that happened in Europe in the last thousand years.
Oh, really? Say that to the billions of Muslims, Hinduists, Shentoists, Buddhists and Confucianists. I think they'd like to hear that. Especially now that China is becoming more and more powerful. Soon, Buddhism will be the biggest religion. Or better yet, Islam. Maybe I'll suffer from that too, but it's worth it, just to see the fall of Europe and Christianity.

RayFan9876 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:Okay, we get it, Christianity obviously isn't the only religion in the world. Is that all you were trying to say?

Anyway, I think your biggest mistake in this iambored is that you believe someone who doesn't belong to a certain group can never understand the feelings of another group (e.g. an Atheist understanding spirituality) and I just gave you a perfectly good reason why you're completely wrong. Like I said that you completely ignored, I used to be a Christian until about two years or so ago. I understood spirituality and I still do.

But now I'm expecting you to say that Christianity doesn't count.
I am tired of this sickeningly eurocentric world, and that is expressed in the most despicable way by what I said about Christianity.
I didn't mention Europe once. :boon: Where did this come from?
Eurocentrism is a part of Christo-centrism and vise versa.

RayFan9876 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:That's all I'm trying to say.
And as I said before, you and Tobbe were right. I shouldn't have used the word atheist. If you had read what I said earlier, you would have known how much your last sentence is wrong.
And if you would have read what you were quoting I didn't specify Atheist, I used it as an example.
OK, now I'm getting confused.

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:32 pm
by spiraldoor
I love living in a Euro-centric, Christian-centric world. It’s wonderful. I also love reading your bitter, pointless rage, which reminds me how good my life is and how lucky I am to be completely and absolutely at peace with the world and my place in it. Cheers! :mrgreen:

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:38 pm
by DesLife
Europe ftw !

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:50 pm
by Adsolution
iambored2006 wrote:German Jews were the worst. Thank god I don't see those Jews often, I'd go insane.
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Talk about hypocrisy.



Moving along:
iambored2006 wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:Why can't we have Judaism or Buddhism as an archetype religion? Well because Christianity seemed to be the most convincing and scared people the most. That was decided like a thousand years ago and bringing that up has nothing to do with anything that happened in Europe in the last thousand years.
Oh, really? Say that to the billions of Muslims, Hinduists, Shentoists, Buddhists and Confucianists. I think they'd like to hear that. Especially now that China is becoming more and more powerful. Soon, Buddhism will be the biggest religion. Or better yet, Islam. Maybe I'll suffer from that too, but it's worth it, just to see the fall of Europe and Christianity.
Say "Christianity convinced people through fear the most?" I thought you'd agree with that. Either way I don't care, I'm not part of a religion. This has no effect on me whatsoever.

RayFan9876 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:Okay, we get it, Christianity obviously isn't the only religion in the world. Is that all you were trying to say?
iambored2006 wrote:Anyway, I think your biggest mistake in this iambored is that you believe someone who doesn't belong to a certain group can never understand the feelings of another group (e.g. an Atheist understanding spirituality) and I just gave you a perfectly good reason why you're completely wrong. Like I said that you completely ignored, I used to be a Christian until about two years or so ago. I understood spirituality and I still do.

But now I'm expecting you to say that Christianity doesn't count.
I am tired of this sickeningly eurocentric world, and that is expressed in the most despicable way by what I said about Christianity.
I didn't mention Europe once. :boon: Where did this come from?
Eurocentrism is a part of Christo-centrism and vise versa.
No it isn't.

iambored2006 wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:
iambored2006 wrote:That's all I'm trying to say.
And as I said before, you and Tobbe were right. I shouldn't have used the word atheist. If you had read what I said earlier, you would have known how much your last sentence is wrong.
And if you would have read what you were quoting I didn't specify Atheist, I used it as an example.
OK, now I'm getting confused.
What I mean was: If you had read my post that you quoted, you would realize that I wasn't focusing on Atheists, I used an Atheist as an example. Comprendo or comprendumb?

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:58 pm
by iambored2006
spiraldoor wrote:I love living in a Euro-centric, Christian-centric world. It’s wonderful. I also love reading your bitter, pointless rage, which reminds me how good my life is and how lucky I am to be completely and absolutely at peace with the world and my place in it. Cheers! :mrgreen:
Oh, you think my rage is pointless? Well, let me tell you this- I have never, ever in my life said something hurtful to someone about something and really meant it until now. Europe will go down, as a sinking ship, and America perhaps with it. Israel will of course be finished by then, but I don't care. As long as I get a front row seat watching Europe die, I will die a happy man. Your place may be great now, but sooner or later all of your countries will be run by Muslims. Your life won't be so good then. And when the time comes, I will be proud to serve under eastern armies, landing the last stroke on Europe's head. Cheers!

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:03 pm
by El Dango
iambored2006

HAS EVOLVED TO

iamfuckingcrazy2006

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:04 pm
by DesLife
Kids, this is how you can earn yourself a 48h ban ! Let's all thank iambored for being a perfect example of a horrible boon !

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:14 pm
by spiraldoor
Sounds like we have a suicide bomber in the making!

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:17 pm
by Matyuv
The large boon picture made me laugh. It's so fitting. Maybe there should be a boon avatar actually.

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:19 pm
by El Dango
spiraldoor wrote:Sounds like we have a suicide bomber in the making!
I guess his latest post could basically be boiled down to "SILENCE! I KILL YOU!!".

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:20 pm
by Danone
Matyuv wrote:The large boon picture made me laugh. It's so fitting. Maybe there should be a boon avatar actually.
I'm making one

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:37 pm
by spiraldoor
El Dango wrote:
spiraldoor wrote:Sounds like we have a suicide bomber in the making!
I guess his latest post could basically be boiled down to "SILENCE! I KILL YOU!!".
The guy practically declared jihad on us.

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:21 pm
by Adsolution
I'm serious, he sounds exactly like the people he hates. It's just like Nigel Powers: "There are only two kinds of people I hate in this world: people who make fun of other peoples' cultures, and the Dutch."
iambored2006 wrote:
spiraldoor wrote:I love living in a Euro-centric, Christian-centric world. It’s wonderful. I also love reading your bitter, pointless rage, which reminds me how good my life is and how lucky I am to be completely and absolutely at peace with the world and my place in it. Cheers! :mrgreen:
Oh, you think my rage is pointless? Well, let me tell you this- I have never, ever in my life said something hurtful to someone about something and really meant it until now. Europe will go down, as a sinking ship, and America perhaps with it. Israel will of course be finished by then, but I don't care. As long as I get a front row seat watching Europe die, I will die a happy man. Your place may be great now, but sooner or later all of your countries will be run by Muslims. Your life won't be so good then. And when the time comes, I will be proud to serve under eastern armies, landing the last stroke on Europe's head. Cheers!
You will watch a country fall and spit on it? Why? Your reasoning for hating Europe is obviously biased and bigoted. Your words sound exactly like the words of a terrorist, I kid you not in any way, shape or form.

Europeans and North Americans hate the Eastern countries because they have a different heritage and belief on how things should work and vice versa. Fortunately most Europeans and North Americans have evolved and become more open minded about such matters. It appears, seeing as how you speak for everyone under two closed eyes, that you along with the rest of your Eastern heritage have not evolved out of hating things because they work differently than how you think they should according to the beliefs you've been raised with.

I'll count up two opposing stereotypes:

• Americans and Europeans are snobby bastards with all their resources and shit!!11one

• Eastern countries like Israel, Vietnam and Afghanistan are mindless idiots bent up on hating us because we make more people happy within our economy!!11one

Even though I don't like the way the far East works I still am open to understanding which you clearly aren't. I don't spit on you for that, but I do understand that you are a warped and confused fool.

Re: Religion – your views

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:40 pm
by ikke471
How could someone hate the dutch? ;P
and why did iambored (iamcrazy) say all that pointless idiot rage shit?
So many questions...