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Bzzit wrote:For the past couple of years I've had issues when it comes to my families mortality. Like, I keep thinking about the day when both my parents will be gone, and it makes me feel really depressed.

Oh man, that's the worst. It happens to me too and it really does scares/saddens me.

@Gwee
Why don't you try thinking about possibility that your consciousness will still exist even after death?

@Bzzit
I know exactly what you are saying. I am myself personally way more sad that my family will slowly be dying as I grow older than that I will die at one point. I guess at least I won't be fully alone since I will always have younger brother for the rest of my life.

Earth Gwee wrote:I was hoping I'd move past my fear of my mortality, but apparently that hasn't happened yet. I suddenly found myself once again becoming fully aware of my inevitable death and brought myself to weep. I hate when my brain goes to such a depressing place, and it's something I haven't gotten full control over yet. I want to be able accept my mortality, but I haven't been able to yet. It still scares me so deeply because I value my life and consciousness too much. I don't know how else to feel about my own death other than deep fear. I can't get to sleep now because of this sudden anxiety. Just... God damn it. I know I probably sound like a broken record now since this is probably the second or third time I've brought this up. I know I should be over it, but I'm not and it's driving me to tears.

I've never really thought about it, I get more upset thinking about living life without the ones I'm close to...

Bzzit wrote:For the past couple of years I've had issues when it comes to my families mortality. Like, I keep thinking about the day when both my parents will be gone, and it makes me feel really depressed.

Fuck, that something that i always think of... it makes me really sad

Yeah it sucks guys. I definitely try to appreciate my parents a lot these days, especially since I felt I was a bit of a dick towards them around ages 15-17 when I was an angsty teen. Like OCG said about his brother ( which I can relate to, as I too have a younger brother), hold dear to siblings, close friends, partners etc, as they will help you get through the sad times, that would be very lonely even more difficult without them.

OCG wrote:@Gwee
Why don't you try thinking about possibility that your consciousness will still exist even after death?

Because as far as I know, based on what science tells me, there is no consciousness left once your brain and organs cease to function. Rot starts to set in and bacteria start to feed on you. I know that sounds really morbid coming from me, but it's what happens to everything that can't generate new cells to keep on living. Very few animals are capable of that, and even then they're not immortal either because the elements can still affect them. I'm not saying I want to live forever. I know that'd be a miserable existence. It just scares me knowing that one day I will no longer generate new cells in my body and my brain will no longer function at all, that one day everything will stop for me. And what will I leave behind? That's another thing that scares me.

Earth Gwee wrote:

OCG wrote:@Gwee
Why don't you try thinking about possibility that your consciousness will still exist even after death?

Because as far as I know, based on what science tells me, there is no consciousness left once your brain and organs cease to function. Rot starts to set in and bacteria start to feed on you. I know that sounds really morbid coming from me, but it's what happens to everything that can't generate new cells to keep on living. Very few animals are capable of that, and even then they're not immortal either because the elements can still affect them. I'm not saying I want to live forever. I know that'd be a miserable existence. It just scares me knowing that one day I will no longer generate new cells in my body and my brain will no longer function at all, that one day everything will stop for me. And what will I leave behind? That's another thing that scares me.

People worry too much about what mark they'll leave after they're gone. Just think about the wonderful memories you've got, the relationships you've had with people and the mark you've left on them. Heck, just be in awe of the fact that you're actually experiencing life first-hand and how amazing that is!

@Gwee
Ok, thats for body but what about your soul?

Acarr wrote:[People worry too much about what mark they'll leave after they're gone. Just think about the wonderful memories you've got, the relationships you've had with people and the mark you've left on them. Heck, just be in awe of the fact that you're actually experiencing life first-hand and how amazing that is!

I know it's silly to focus on the unknown. I am trying to move past that negativity and focus on the here and now. My brain goes places I don't want it to go sometimes. It's one of the downsides of my autism.

OCG wrote:@Gwee
Ok, thats for body but what about your soul?

A soul is a nice thing to believe in, but I see it as just my self-awareness that was passed down through millions of years of evolution. My sense of self can be considered a soul, but it's all a mix of complex chemicals and electrical impulses working together to make me live and breathe and be who I am. So, sorry, no, I don't believe in actual souls that live past their bodies. There's no evidence that proves that.

Actually, there is evidence. There is a well known case of a boy who remembered his own past life, described how he was murdered, helped police find killer and corpse of his previous body. It really turned out corpse found died on same way how boy described it. What is a real question is how can one achieve to remember their past lives since only few people do.

OCG wrote:Actually, there is evidence. There is a well known case of a boy who remembered his own past life, described how he was murdered, helped police find killer and corpse of his previous body. It really turned out corpse found died on same way how boy described it. What is a real question is how can one achieve to remember their past lives since only few people do.

I like to think of life as a dream. That way if any thing bad happens I can tell myself its just a dream and ill wake up.

Hey, that's actually a great way to look at life now that I think about it.

Probably not a healthy thing to do, depending on the situation.

Bradandez wrote:

Ambidextroid wrote:

incognito wrote:I'm not afraid of mortality, actually I'm kinda impatient do die.

I'm concerned...

I'm not. Incognito is just being edgy again (have no idea if he's being serious) and it certainly isn't helping out Gwee's situation.

I'm serious, if I die I won't be missed anyway.
The world hates me.
The only persons that will miss me are my parents.

Bzzit wrote:Yeah it sucks guys. I definitely try to appreciate my parents a lot these days.

I have done this all my life.

Acarr wrote:People worry too much about what mark they'll leave after they're gone. Just think about the wonderful memories you've got, the relationships you've had with people and the mark you've left on them.

All friends and people I met betrayed me.

Earth Gwee wrote:I know it's silly to focus on the unknown. I am trying to move past that negativity and focus on the here and now. My brain goes places I don't want it to go sometimes. It's one of the downsides of my autism.

I have photographic memory, I don't know if it should be considered as autism, but sometimes I have sudden flashbacks, for a long time I was unable to control them, but years passed and I discovered an Indian self control method, which helps me to control myself in any situation (except attraction) it helped me a lot, I don't know if it will help you but I can share it.

DandyGuy wrote:

OCG wrote:Actually, there is evidence. There is a well known case of a boy who remembered his own past life, described how he was murdered, helped police find killer and corpse of his previous body. It really turned out corpse found died on same way how boy described it. What is a real question is how can one achieve to remember their past lives since only few people do.

I like to think of life as a dream. That way if any thing bad happens I can tell myself its just a dream and ill wake up.

Thus means you never faced death.

DandyGuy wrote:

OCG wrote:Actually, there is evidence. There is a well known case of a boy who remembered his own past life, described how he was murdered, helped police find killer and corpse of his previous body. It really turned out corpse found died on same way how boy described it. What is a real question is how can one achieve to remember their past lives since only few people do.

I like to think of life as a dream. That way if any thing bad happens I can tell myself its just a dream and ill wake up.

How could you tell if you're using the toilet in your sleep or not?
Life can't all be butterflies and rainbows... you learn from bad experiences.

I really don't think about whether I leave a mark in life, I don't think about not wanting to die, I don't think about my loved ones dying etc. because there's really no point if it hasn't happened yet. The way I look at it, there's nothing that getting depressed/worried over uncontrollable things that'll happen in the future will do other than make you feel bad.
If I think about the fact that one day I'll die and I get sad about it, what have I achieved? I've just taken up some of that valuable limited life and made it a total depressing waste. I honestly don't get why human beings naturally worry about anything uncontrollable because it doesn't serve any good purpose.
I don't know if my reasoning is why, but I never really feel anxious or depressed about anything.

Hi people, it's been a little, missed me?
I was having thoughts abiut this topic couple days ago. I don't and never have seen death as something depressing or sad. Heck why should it be? It's completely natural that a living being stops to live at some point. I'd be worrying if someone would never die.... What's really important is, is how you deal with your own fragile life. You could stay all day long at home and do absolutely nothing or you fucking get out of the house and live out your life! Like how is it so nicely called: You Only Live Once! You know what's also really nice? If you set a life goal and once you archive this, you can finally peacefully die (well not suicide obviously, but you get my point).
And I do believe in a soul, and to my religion the only real purpose of life is to prove yourself that you're worthy enough for afterlife.

Acarr wrote:Life can't all be butterflies and rainbows...

Neither can dreams!

I've also experienced those nights. That's silly, most of the time I take death as a joke, or just some inevitable ending. It's in every stories, and I know very well that an eternal existence would drive one crazy. Whatever awaits after, everything comes to an end.
Yeah, I'm “ok” with death. I have no worries…

Until I think about it for real.
Hello, it's me, brain, let's talk about your death! When will it happens? How many days before? How will my last moments be? Will I be ready? What will be my very last thoughts? Will I have a song in mind? For that matter, what will be the very last song I will hear? The last story I would have read? :3
From all the things I like, actually… Maybe I've already experienced some of them for the last time! It will never happen again. All the projects I have, the illusion of future… Gone. What if, actually, I die in the second? Yeah, brain, good idea: let's practice (instead of, you know, sleeping). Supposing I'm reaching the end of my life right now, do I have regrets? Was my existence meaningful? Am I in peace with the idea of not seeing tomorrow? Without even saying goodbye to anyone?
Oh, yes, the close ones, what a great subject! When will I see this one for the last time? Or this one? Would they be aware of my death? What was the last thing I said to them? More exciting: what if instead of me dying, it's them. Oh hey, we can start all over again now: how many days? How? Who?
And so on,
and so on…

Eventually I reach a point when I'm feeling so sad I just accept it. I tell to myself: forgive hope, don't even have regrets, just enjoy what you had. Everything is meaningless, right? Right. Not satisfying, but eh, I have to sleep somehow.
After all, I'm supposed to wake up tomorrow. From which dream, I can't tell.

Acarr wrote:

DandyGuy wrote:

OCG wrote:Actually, there is evidence. There is a well known case of a boy who remembered his own past life, described how he was murdered, helped police find killer and corpse of his previous body. It really turned out corpse found died on same way how boy described it. What is a real question is how can one achieve to remember their past lives since only few people do.

I like to think of life as a dream. That way if any thing bad happens I can tell myself its just a dream and ill wake up.

How could you tell if you're using the toilet in your sleep or not?
Life can't all be butterflies and rainbows... you learn from bad experiences.

Thats not the point you missed it entirely. There's nothing wrong with viewing the world as a Dream. Just easier to accept death or no death at all because its a dream and you cant die in a dream only be awoken. Anyways Earth Gwee, its up to you to choose what ever way you wish to view your exists be it real or dream like. I have a feeling the architect of the Universe did not build a stairway leading no where.

getting pretty feely

Earth Gwee wrote:I was hoping I'd move past my fear of my mortality, but apparently that hasn't happened yet. I suddenly found myself once again becoming fully aware of my inevitable death and brought myself to weep. I hate when my brain goes to such a depressing place, and it's something I haven't gotten full control over yet. I want to be able accept my mortality, but I haven't been able to yet. It still scares me so deeply because I value my life and consciousness too much. I don't know how else to feel about my own death other than deep fear. I can't get to sleep now because of this sudden anxiety. Just... God damn it. I know I probably sound like a broken record now since this is probably the second or third time I've brought this up. I know I should be over it, but I'm not and it's driving me to tears.

Well, yeah, I'm heavily leaning towards the believe that there's likely nothing after death. I also think religion tends to be completely unreasonable and if anything I think it's contradictory, I've never found religion to be the comforting concept people claim it to be: People become so depended on it to help them sort things out and make up their mind that ignorance becomes justified because Jesus, and if you're ever successful it's because Jesus.

It might be a terrifying concept to think that you're working towards the inevitable result, but at the same time I feel like atheism inspires people much more in life and encourages a greater sense of open mindedness and "critical thinking". When you take away believes of things having genuine reasons and purposes, it instead opens up a much more independent thought process that places more emphasis on the fact that you're in control of your own goals and ideas, and you're responsible for securing your own satisfaction in life.

It's sort of like being paranoid climate change: Regardless of how afraid you might be of it, I doubt you'd want to pretend its a hoax like ignorant people, and someone who does is probably more likely to never take matters in their own hands and not actually start giving a shit until it's too late, and the same applies to your own life.

I think death is much less scary than going through life without ever really, I guess, "getting your shit together". If you look at someone who's going through a midlife crisis, or purchasing useless anti-aging products, that feeling of "i haven't done enough in my best years and i dont want to go on yet" is much more terrifying to me; the realisation that you wasted time that can't be repeated. And I think that when you insert your own purpose and meaning into life, you'll enter your final years much more confidently.

TL;DR instead of focusing on hopes and fears about death, it's much more daring to go through life doing what you really want to, knowing it could all suddenly end for no reason at all.

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