I see what you're saying, the idea of running our own country and having our own voice is definiely the attraction to independence. But still, I dunno...Serza5 wrote:Well if you put it this England is pretty large in itself so I doubt the UK would lose out on anything serious, the most it would be is losing Scottish produce which could be solved if the UK Sets up a trade with Scotland (Which is pretty likely).Fraz wrote:To both Scotland and the UK. I mean it could be great for us but not so great for the rest of the UK or who knows it could be a win-win situation for both.stan423321 wrote:To whom?
Actually, this is one of best answers to all such questions. I have no idea what is stuff in Scotland like, but almost surely some would benefit more than others.
Independence is more of a pride thing than anything else, however leaving would mean that we can fully run our own country, we can have our own voice and we wouldn't have to put up with British PMs like David Cameron.
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It certianly wouldn't be a waste of time, nor would it be a disaster. There's no real reason for anyone to be against it, unless you really like being part of a union Scotland didn't want to be a part of in the first place.Fraz wrote:I see what you're saying, the idea of running our own country and having our own voice is definiely the attraction to independence. But still, I dunno...Serza5 wrote:Well if you put it this England is pretty large in itself so I doubt the UK would lose out on anything serious, the most it would be is losing Scottish produce which could be solved if the UK Sets up a trade with Scotland (Which is pretty likely).Fraz wrote:To both Scotland and the UK. I mean it could be great for us but not so great for the rest of the UK or who knows it could be a win-win situation for both.stan423321 wrote:To whom?
Actually, this is one of best answers to all such questions. I have no idea what is stuff in Scotland like, but almost surely some would benefit more than others.
Independence is more of a pride thing than anything else, however leaving would mean that we can fully run our own country, we can have our own voice and we wouldn't have to put up with British PMs like David Cameron.
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Knock, knock. What about money?
There is a lot of stuff regarding money, but I mean, would there be separate Scottish money? This would be cool.
There is a lot of stuff regarding money, but I mean, would there be separate Scottish money? This would be cool.
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€ ftw !
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I disagree. Pounds are better. WE STAND OUT. 
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In a pathetic way.
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With all Eurozone crysis currently, trying to make Englishmen and Scots use euros is a bit weird. Each country has different inner workings, so in hands of smart leaders money of each own is helpful.
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Crysis is a game. The word you seek is crisis.stan423321 wrote:With all Eurozone crysis currently, trying to make Englishmen and Scots use euros is a bit weird. Each country has different inner workings, so in hands of smart leaders money of each own is helpful.
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‘That’s just my opinion’ is not a very convincing argument.RayTunes wrote:I never said that, it was my own opinion.
If you’re going to keep relying on ‘That’s my opinion’, you might as well stop posting, as I already know what you are going to say and that you are not going to back it up. Just because there’s a website dedicated to the hatred of Bill O’Reilly doesn’t mean you should constantly talk about how much you hate him here (I am sick of hearing his name).RayTunes wrote:There are a lot of people that disagree on that. There is a website that keeps up with his failure.But that's simply my opnion.
That’s a baseless racist generalisation. Americans are of average intelligence for a civilised country.RayTunes wrote:It is obvious the United States are not the best when it comes to 'intelligence'.
And I said that’s not true.RayTunes wrote:I said forums ARE meant for entertainment.
Why did you even bring it up? What point were you trying to make?RayTunes wrote:I've seen that quote a couple of times, but i'm not going to search through the whole forum just to prove it.
Again you miss my point by assuming that ‘Science’ is an acceptable interjection. As I said, it’s not. You are the only one who uses it. You manufactured it. It must take some conscious effort to say ‘Science’ every time a normal person would say ‘God’. It’s forced. Why are you talking about ‘Oh fiddlesticks’? Nobody says that. I have never heard it spoken aloud by a person. If they did, at least it would be tolerable as a quaint, meaningless old exclamation; unlike ‘Oh Science’, which is entirely fabricated and which forces your political convictions on those around you. What’s this bear gibberish?RayFan9876 wrote:That's entirely your perception of it... you conservative right-winged bastard.Anyway, an interjection is an interjection. If a British person comes to America and when alarmed shouts British slang, I don't see people finding it horribly annoying. "Oh fiddlesticks" makes no sense from any perspective whatsoever, and it's not a commonly used phrase, especially around Americans. You're going to have to dive into the deepest parts of Salisbury to find that, yet I don't see anyone complaining. As far as I recall, Science is a much more known topic, I HOPE, and God makes no sense from any perspective whatsoever either. Bear cave, bear cave, run into the bear cave; pour me a bottle, and run into the rave.
They need to stop being so precious about their stupid currency with their queen on the back. We gave up our pounds when we were assimilated, but those cheeky British scoundrels refused to surrender that particular aspect of their sovereignty, thereby inconveniencing anyone who wishes to trade with them.stan423321 wrote:With all Eurozone crysis currently, trying to make Englishmen and Scots use euros is a bit weird. Each country has different inner workings, so in hands of smart leaders money of each own is helpful.
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I think if the country members of Euro currency returned to their previous currencies, it would be chaotic. Knowing how the economy is...
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I can't really say that i'm bothered about whether we take on the Euro like Ireland or stick with the pound.
Either way changing to the Euro in this crisis would only cause more trouble. As for our own currency.....nah. :PThat wouldn't be much better.
Either way changing to the Euro in this crisis would only cause more trouble. As for our own currency.....nah. :PThat wouldn't be much better.
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Indeed, it is highly inconvenient for Euro countries to convert their currency when they trade with the UK, as they currently do with over twenty other European countries. Much better for the UK to just switch to the Euro, especially in these easy financial times.
As for Scottish independence, I wouldn't object but I don't think this would 'improve' the relationship between Scotland and England, rather the opposite. It's hardly likely to be a viable financial possibility any time soon, anyway.
As for Scottish independence, I wouldn't object but I don't think this would 'improve' the relationship between Scotland and England, rather the opposite. It's hardly likely to be a viable financial possibility any time soon, anyway.
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You think so? I doubt it. Just like some of the Scots some of the English would be happy for the split to happen.Xenon wrote: As for Scottish independence, I wouldn't object but I don't think this would 'improve' the relationship between Scotland and England, rather the opposite.
Also on top of that look at EIRE, it and the UK have gotten on pretty well after independence.
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Thank you. No irony here.RayFan9876 wrote:Crysis is a game. The word you seek is crisis.stan423321 wrote:With all Eurozone crysis currently, trying to make Englishmen and Scots use euros is a bit weird. Each country has different inner workings, so in hands of smart leaders money of each own is helpful.
Do you do massive trade? No? Then you can't see advantages of UK having the pound. The "tourists etc" argument is driving me mad when discussing euro, because, guess what, this is the least important part. It's less ofXenon wrote:Indeed, it is highly inconvenient for Euro countries to convert their currency when they trade with the UK, as they currently do with over twenty other European countries. Much better for the UK to just switch to the Euro, especially in these easy financial times.
than economy control.being precious
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Fair points. To be honest, I'm indifferent about it. If Scotland does become independant one day then cool, no objections here but as it stands, I am perfectly fine being part of the union despite putting up with bawbags like Cameron.Serza5 wrote:It certianly wouldn't be a waste of time, nor would it be a disaster. There's no real reason for anyone to be against it, unless you really like being part of a union Scotland didn't want to be a part of in the first place.Fraz wrote:I see what you're saying, the idea of running our own country and having our own voice is definiely the attraction to independence. But still, I dunno...Serza5 wrote:Well if you put it this England is pretty large in itself so I doubt the UK would lose out on anything serious, the most it would be is losing Scottish produce which could be solved if the UK Sets up a trade with Scotland (Which is pretty likely).Fraz wrote:To both Scotland and the UK. I mean it could be great for us but not so great for the rest of the UK or who knows it could be a win-win situation for both.stan423321 wrote:To whom?
Actually, this is one of best answers to all such questions. I have no idea what is stuff in Scotland like, but almost surely some would benefit more than others.
Independence is more of a pride thing than anything else, however leaving would mean that we can fully run our own country, we can have our own voice and we wouldn't have to put up with British PMs like David Cameron.
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In my life I’m going to have more dealings with the UK than I will with all of those silly obscure countries put together. What difference does it make if the likes of Azerbaijan use ‘manats’? They can keep their magic moon dollars for all I care. What I find objectionable is your refusal to be assimilated in the first place, like we were. Not fair. Stop this currency pussyfooting. Either join the EU properly or GTFO.Xenon wrote:Indeed, it is highly inconvenient for Euro countries to convert their currency when they trade with the UK, as they currently do with over twenty other European countries. Much better for the UK to just switch to the Euro, especially in these easy financial times.
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Why?
EU was initially based on simple custom system. No mroe, no less. This is the EU that I want. In fact, I want "no customs for most stuff" EU, not "every country must prohibit weeds, herbs, dislike of homosexuality and carbon dioxide emmission and generally be the same" EU.
EU was initially based on simple custom system. No mroe, no less. This is the EU that I want. In fact, I want "no customs for most stuff" EU, not "every country must prohibit weeds, herbs, dislike of homosexuality and carbon dioxide emmission and generally be the same" EU.
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I'm going to make this an long argument in which I have to give good explanations and such. The reason why I prefer this forum over many sites is because it is possible to spend longer than a day without receiving a idiotic comment containing sexual content and swearing.spiraldoor wrote:‘That’s just my opinion’ is not a very convincing argument.
If i'm correct I mentioned him five time since I joined. If i'm wrong, then tell me, as I believe the idea of a forum also contains sharing your opinion.spiraldoor wrote:If you’re going to keep relying on ‘That’s my opinion’, you might as well stop posting, as I already know what you are going to say and that you are not going to back it up. Just because there’s a website dedicated to the hatred of Bill O’Reilly doesn’t mean you should constantly talk about how much you hate him here (I am sick of hearing his name).
Join YouTube, you'll agree with me in less than a week.RayTunes wrote:That’s a baseless racist generalisation. Americans are of average intelligence for a civilised country.
I have lived in the United States for closely three years now, so I think im quite well experienced. If they are average intelligence, then why I have had conversations where people are seriously saying that Germany is 100% Nazi and that the Soviet Union is gay because it's not American.
So, you're saying that the Rayman Pirate-Community has absolutely nothing to do with entertainment?spiraldoor wrote:And I said that’s not true.
I'm not exactly in the mood of going into an argument, meaning that i'm not going to add another discussion contain sources, prove, etc. I'm currently already having them about consoles, countries, religion, and homosexuality, I don't think I will spend anymore time finding prove.spiraldoor wrote:Why did you even bring it up? What point were you trying to make?
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I have too much pride to say I like being part of the union. I read the history and it's horrible how Scotland was bribed to be part of this union.Fraz wrote:Fair points. To be honest, I'm indifferent about it. If Scotland does become independant one day then cool, no objections here but as it stands, I am perfectly fine being part of the union despite putting up with bawbags like Cameron.Serza5 wrote:It certianly wouldn't be a waste of time, nor would it be a disaster. There's no real reason for anyone to be against it, unless you really like being part of a union Scotland didn't want to be a part of in the first place.Fraz wrote:I see what you're saying, the idea of running our own country and having our own voice is definiely the attraction to independence. But still, I dunno...Serza5 wrote:Well if you put it this England is pretty large in itself so I doubt the UK would lose out on anything serious, the most it would be is losing Scottish produce which could be solved if the UK Sets up a trade with Scotland (Which is pretty likely).Fraz wrote:To both Scotland and the UK. I mean it could be great for us but not so great for the rest of the UK or who knows it could be a win-win situation for both.stan423321 wrote:To whom?
Actually, this is one of best answers to all such questions. I have no idea what is stuff in Scotland like, but almost surely some would benefit more than others.
Independence is more of a pride thing than anything else, however leaving would mean that we can fully run our own country, we can have our own voice and we wouldn't have to put up with British PMs like David Cameron.
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You can't! that would mean the TV show I watched as a kid is wrong when they say that it is part of the union! There, no way around that, the whole country will find that a perfect reason. Plus, England, Ireland and Wales are cool countries to be together with. Though, the Euro should be all around the continent, it is way cool.




