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Re: Linux

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 3:44 pm
by Fifo
Hoodcom wrote:
Fifo wrote:I used VMware, not VirtualBox. Also, Gentoo does support virtual machines.
VMware makes really great software
They indeed do :)
Hoodcom wrote:I love using ESXi on my Dell R710 server and will be using it on the office Dell R720XD server as well. :)
Nice :)

Re: Linux

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 3:52 pm
by PluMGMK
The reason I said ZFS is cruel is because it's illegal to compile that into the kernel, so it has to be a linked module. Thus if your main file system is ZFS, you need to set up an initrd, and generally jump through more hoops than you would if you used some natively-supported FS. As a result I've never tried ZFS. I briefly dabbled in btrfs when it was looking like the next big thing in 2014 (now it's just a trainwreck!) but for the most part it's just Ext4 for me, plus occasional NTFS when interoperability is required.

Re: Linux

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 4:20 pm
by Reese Riverson
Because of how it was open source when it was by Sun Microsystems until Oracle Corporation bought them out? Looks like as of V29 with ZFS it became closed source. So FreeNAS for example seems to have kept working with V28.

Re: Linux

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 4:23 pm
by PluMGMK
It's still open-source, but Oracle insist on using some licence that's technically incompatible with the GPL. So anyone distributing a kernel with ZFS compiled in could be sued by the kernel developers (who happen to include Oracle) for GPL violation. Though come to think of it, it does only apply to distribution, so if you're compiling your own kernel you're okay. So hey, why amn't I using ZFS?? :P

Re: Linux

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 4:28 pm
by Reese Riverson
Heh, I can't say there. :P

Though what I've liked about ZFS is the RAID capability for file storage, like on my storage server. Though I know the more storage space you have, the more RAM you have to have depending on features you use too. Though I should be perfectly fine for my SuperMicro server, since I have 144GB of RAM in it. :P

Re: Linux

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 7:20 pm
by The Jonster
Man, I haven't used Linux or VMWare in quite a long time now, the only experience I've had with either of those two has been in college two years ago. Even though I'm a Windows person, I've always felt that Linux has been better for me to program in. I actually once tried installing Ubuntu onto my old computer with my friend's help and for some reason I was never able to log into it for some strange reason. Now that I have new ones, I might try installing them again so I can actually work on my programming more efficiently rather than just using PuTTY. Compared to almost everyone who's posted on this thread, though I feel like a beginner. :lol:

Re: Linux

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:19 pm
by Fifo
Hrmm, shall I try building a LFS VM someday? I love challenging myself with such things.

(I have a feeling it’s gonna take even longer than a Gentoo install…)

Re: Linux

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:23 pm
by LoveMetal
Actually yes, with LFS you have to be ready to spend one month or more building and configuring your iso.

Re: Linux

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:57 pm
by Fifo
Wow. Guess I’ll have something to do when I get really bored :P

Re: Linux

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:25 pm
by PluMGMK
I find December/January is a good month to use. :P

Re: Linux

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:40 am
by Steo
I feel like I should have been posting in this thread about Linux but anyway I tried Ubuntu and used Gallium 9, DXVK and Lutris to try out some stuff on it. I had a few problems and I'm thinking Nvidia is the main issue. My plan instead now is going to be to use a spare PC and put an AMD GPU into it then play around with distros and the likes of wine.

Linux is a really interesting OS to play around with.

Re: Linux

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:58 am
by LoveMetal
Steo wrote:Gallium 9, DXVK and Lutris
Are these things operational now? I remember that some years ago, it was like impossible to use those because of the shitty Nouveau drivers.

Re: Linux

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:32 pm
by Steo
LoveMetal wrote:
Steo wrote:Gallium 9, DXVK and Lutris
Are these things operational now? I remember that some years ago, it was like impossible to use those because of the shitty Nouveau drivers.
The Nouveau drivers aren't as bad as they used to be but as far as I know they only need to be used with Nvidia at this stage where with AMD you can do mesa updates and stuff. That's why I want to try out using an AMD card on my spare PC to see what the results are.

Then again my laptop is actually AMD.

Re: Linux

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:35 pm
by PluMGMK
Nouveau is best on the 600 and 700 series because you can manually enable re-clocking. On the 900 series (which I have) it works, but it's pretty basic, performance-wise. On the 1000 series I believe it can't even get out of bed because NVIDIA haven't provided the signed firmware (which has been required since 900 series) yet.

Re: Linux

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:48 pm
by Steo
I have a GTX 970, in fact I have 2 of them in SLI. Maybe it's something to do with my configuration or monitor, but it had a lot of screen tearing even just scrolling on Firefox, then a lot of judder/frameskip in Origins.

Now Origins wasn't doing that at first so maybe it's my own fault for installing so many things at once that maybe I caused some conflicting software or drivers. I was using kernel 4.17.9 on Ubuntu for my tests.

Re: Linux

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:26 pm
by incognito
PluMGMK wrote:I find December/January is a good month to use. :P
LFS = System for Mad Kunts, no one can change my mind on this one. No one.
I consider my time too precious to spend an entire month just to configure an unstable ass system...
Not even sure that I'd get the bang of it in only a month...

Re: Linux

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:39 pm
by PluMGMK
I respect your opinion. :mrgreen:
EDIT: Though mine is certainly not unstable. I generally don't have any crashes or stupidity like that.

Re: Linux

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:59 pm
by Steo
Haha, yeah I'm reading that there's very mixed opinions when it comes to LFS, Slackware, Arch and Gentoo, all of which I'm not ready to attempt without banging my head against the wall :mrgreen:

One I remember from years ago was that my uncles laptop was running Mandriva. I don't remember much about it but I do remember it having 4 desktops.

There's so many different builds for so many purposes that I wouldn't really know what to do. I mean yeah I can dual boot Windows to play games so that's fine, most of the time I'd prefer to play retro games and use my consoles since I have them all anyway, so trying to make the games work on Linux is more for the learning experience :)

So my main goal for Linux is to run a distro I'll learn from while being able to use simple things properly. I'm getting the hang of the basic terminal commands, well fixing a Vestel TV gave me most of that knowledge since they run linux with their firmware packages being squash fs.

Contrary to what one might believe, while I call myself a technician, I'm good when it comes to hardware but I'm not the greatest on the software side of things. When it comes to running programs with hundreds of features such as blender I haven't a clue :mrgreen:

My point is I'm practically a Linux noob where I should be more of an expert in that field if I'm going to call myself a technician :P

I suppose I'll try Debian next since it's been said a few times and learn the hard way whether the kernel gives me trouble. I'm just too used to working with a Windows environment.

Re: Linux

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:26 pm
by LoveMetal
incognito wrote:LFS = System for Mad Kunts, no one can change my mind on this one. No one.
I consider my time too precious to spend an entire month just to configure an unstable ass system...
The point of LFS is not to build a system that you will use every day. It is meant to be a interactive course to teach you about how a Linux system is made in depth.

Re: Linux

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:02 pm
by The Jonster
I think after wondering between Mint and Ubuntu for the past couple hours, I've decided to install Ubuntu on one computer and Mint on the other to practice.. I want to try and relearn how to use Linux first. (Hmm, Linux Mint Cinnamon...?)