Those are pretty much my exact views, unfortunately I'm not able to put things into words quite that well.
*Rises hand up*
I'm not following.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:23 am
by Haruka
I'm also an atheist, mostly because first of all, I never saw god. And second: I believe in science.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:30 am
by Adsolution
Haruka wrote:I'm also an atheist, mostly because first of all, I never saw god. And second: I believe in science.
Ah, I follow now.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:31 am
by Haruka
But what's funny is that when someone is in a situation of dispair, he/she can grab on anything: even in religion.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:33 am
by Adsolution
Haruka wrote:But what's funny is that when someone is in a situation of dispair, he/she can grab on anything: even in religion.
This is true, even if they've been an Atheist all their life.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:42 am
by Haruka
RayFan9876 wrote:
Haruka wrote:But what's funny is that when someone is in a situation of dispair, he/she can grab on anything: even in religion.
This is true, even if they've been an Atheist all their life.
Yeah, I can witness this by myself in certain situations.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:45 am
by DesLife
Haruka wrote:I'm also an atheist, mostly because first of all, I never saw god. And second: I believe in science.
There's no such thing as "believing in science".
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:58 am
by Adsolution
DesLife wrote:
Haruka wrote:I'm also an atheist, mostly because first of all, I never saw god. And second: I believe in science.
There's no such thing as "believing in science".
I think she meant "believing in the scientific explanation."
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:52 am
by Hunchman801
DesLife wrote:
Haruka wrote:I'm also an atheist, mostly because first of all, I never saw god. And second: I believe in science.
There's no such thing as "believing in science".
Firstly, and secondly science and religion are not incompatible.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:58 am
by Adsolution
Hunchman801 wrote:
DesLife wrote:
Haruka wrote:I'm also an atheist, mostly because first of all, I never saw god. And second: I believe in science.
There's no such thing as "believing in science".
Firstly, and secondly science and religion are not incompatible.
If going by the literal meaning of religion then yes, they are incompatible. Often though people use the term "religion" outside of worshiping a supernatural deity and just "believing in a supreme power," which has a shot at having a scientific answer, and it may be the same answer that we are striving for as well: How and why the universe is. However there's nothing to negate the possibility of if our universe was created by someone or something within another universe.
If that's the case then we have something even more interesting to strive for: the origin of every universe that ever was. Maybe we cannot possibly reach any information outside our own universe.
If I'm sounding ridiculous it's because I'm in one of those tired, dreamy night time highs.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:04 pm
by Hunchman801
I'm not sure what you mean by “literal meaning of religion”, but if you meant “literal interpretation of religious texts”, then yes science and religion are incompatible, but the former doesn't necessarily (and fortunately quite rarely) imply such a strict understanding of holy scriptures.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:20 pm
by Haruka
RayFan9876 wrote:
I think she meant "believing in the scientific explanation."
Yes, I'm sorry if I wasn't quite clear.
... Sorry, I had to.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:54 pm
by Adsolution
Hunchman801 wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by “literal meaning of religion”, but if you meant “literal interpretation of religious texts”, then yes science and religion are incompatible, but the former doesn't necessarily (and fortunately quite rarely) imply such a strict understanding of holy scriptures.
I meant the literal definition of religion:
Google wrote:re·li·gion/riˈlijən/
Noun:
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
Whereas people I've noticed commonly misuse the work "religion" when referring to their beliefs of another creator - which at first sounds like religion, but isn't.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:37 pm
by spiraldoor
I want to know what Kurui saw.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:06 pm
by Tobbe
spiraldoor wrote:I want to know what Kurui saw.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:20 pm
by Adsolution
Someone had fun in art class.
There's no need to quote the entire image here. -Tobbe
Aright.-RayFan9876
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:08 pm
by Hunchman801
RayFan9876 wrote:I meant the literal definition of religion:
Google wrote:re·li·gion/riˈlijən/
Noun:
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
Then you are wrong, such a belief is not necessarily incompatible with science.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:20 pm
by Danone
Evil-Thingamajig wrote:And i am pointing out that until science can't find a answer for how the universe is created then science is talking nonsense. (You get what i mean)
What the hell are you saying?
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:31 am
by Haruka
Hunchman801 wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:I meant the literal definition of religion:
Google wrote:re·li·gion/riˈlijən/
Noun:
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
Then you are wrong, such a belief is not necessarily incompatible with science.
Yes. It doesn't you can't find scientists that believe in a superior identity.
Re: Religion – your views
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:28 pm
by Rsandee
Well, my views sure have evolved since last summer.
I came to the conclusion that the idea that God would care about us believing in him is just stupid.
He's like a father that abandoned his child at birth.