It would be really helpful if you could remember anything that he said, as all of the information we have about this cop has been filtered through your druggie bias, so it’s difficult to assess the extent or usefulness of his ‘lies’. That ‘fictional dialogue’ you wrote is just plain weird, not to mention confusing. What does coffee have to do with anything? Is it meant to represent marijuana in contrast to the ‘officially named’ drugs (whatever they are)? Is the fictional version of me meant to represent the views of the ‘anti-drugs people’ you mentioned earlier? Making up a fake dialogue because you thought my real answer wasn’t going to be conducive to your argument is not exactly a resounding declaration of your confidence in your own logic.iambored2006 wrote:@spiral, first off, the fact that I don't remember the exact words of the cop shouldn't awaken any suspicions. And I did not check in any pro-junkie sites. I used Wikipedia and its references. Now, I will produce a fictional dialogue for the purpose of expressing my point to the full extent (I am talking like this because I can, BTW. It's such a relief to be able to express yourself easily after a long, hard day of struggling with Hebrew.)-
Me: "Consider this, spiral- coffee is bad for you, and it is very addicting. In fact, it is very harmful to your health, as recent studies have shown, and you can get critically addicted to it to the point when you need to go to rehab. Do not drink coffee ever. Coffee's bad, mkay?
You: "You can't compare coffee to (officially named) drugs. It's a completely different league. Drugs are indeed very bad for your health and are very addicting."
Me: "If they truly are so bad, and you are being honest, and you can convince people with this truth, why use lies? Once people will find out you lied to them, they will think drugs aren't bad at all, or at least not as much as they really are, and they will even have motivation to take some. That is, to stick it to the dirty liar."
I made this conversation up because I wasn't sure you'd answer what I wanted you to answer.
As I said, the cop’s purpose was evidently to get your class to stay away from drugs; you may not think marijuana is harmful, but I presume it’s still illegal where you live, and therefore it shouldn’t be encouraged – especially among children and teenagers (for the same reasons they are not allowed to drink or smoke). Not to mention the other potential problems it causes, like long-term addiction, the gateway effect, lack of productivity, the promotion of trafficking, the lining of the pockets of druglords and so forth. While adults are obviously going to make their own choices, I find it imperative that minors are kept out of the world of illegal drugs, at least until they are mature enough to know what they’re getting themselves into. So, sure – lie to them, if that’s what it takes. Disagree on moral grounds if you will, but I don’t for a second believe your claim that discovering they’ve been misled will cause a large number of the minors to ‘think drugs aren’t bad at all’ and ‘take some to stick it to the dirty liar’. (If they’re that silly, nothing is really lost when they become stoners!)
The pope is obviously a Catholic.RayTunes wrote:I doubt that all the ones that work at churches are actually religious. I personally do not believe the Pope believes.
It’s pretty clear now that you’re just believing what you want to believe.
