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spiraldoor wrote:Don't do drugs guys.

I've considered trying out Marijuana just to see what it's like. I doubt I would be interested in it again after I try it once since I think it smells and would probably taste like a skunk's asshole, but if it turns out that it actually very much aids my creativity, then I might go back to it once in a while if I'm really strained for ideas (certainly not as a regular thing).

I have no idea when I plan on doing that though, if at all.

MrBadGuy wrote:It's obviously only funny in the right context, for example, a mate of mine just got really drunk during freshers week, and now he has a shaved head. Fucking. Hilarious.

To me, that sounds like "it's funny if someone else is in that situation" kind of thing. I certainly wouldn't find it funny if I was in that situation. And I'd only find it funny if another person was in the situation as I'd be saying to them "wouldn't ya be sickened?" (Irish thing).

Keane wrote:And that's exactly why I don't see the "fun" in it. I'm unable to understand how someone can find joy or even be proud of the fact that they drank to the point where they lost their minds and started acting up.

How can you expect to understand it if you've never done it under the right circumstances? Bzzit gets it.

Keane wrote:I disagree. I'm not looking to find folks whom are into getting drunk with each other and having meaningless sex, so drinking to get social interaction with those people would only be pointless in my opinion.

Most people who go to university with views like yours ("I would never do X...") end up relaxing them fairly quickly. Get back to us in three or four years and we'll see if I was right.

spiraldoor wrote:

Keane wrote:And that's exactly why I don't see the "fun" in it. I'm unable to understand how someone can find joy or even be proud of the fact that they drank to the point where they lost their minds and started acting up.

How can you expect to understand it if you've never done it under the right circumstances? Bzzit gets it.

I know plenty people who are currently drinking and they come across like some of the most pathetic people I know. When someone posts on Facebook that he had to call his mother because he wasn't able to walk back home and collapsed on the street it doesn't really make me go "Oh that sounds fun!".

spiraldoor wrote:Most people who go to university with views like yours ("I would never do X...") end up relaxing them fairly quickly. Get back to us in three or four years and we'll see if I was right.

Mhm, and that's exactly what both my parents were told and neither of them ever touched it. I don't really mind following their footsteps in this case. To say that I'll never, especially this early, is not a very solid claim, but I doubt it's anything for me.

Adsolution wrote:I think it smells and would probably taste like a skunk's asshole

it does smell yeah but I didn't really mind the taste (I had it once but I'm not interested in using it ever again.. I was just.. myself but I giggled all the damn time.. which was funny but it isn't something I want to feel all the time)

sonicbrawler182 wrote:

MrBadGuy wrote:It's obviously only funny in the right context, for example, a mate of mine just got really drunk during freshers week, and now he has a shaved head. Fucking. Hilarious.

To me, that sounds like "it's funny if someone else is in that situation" kind of thing. I certainly wouldn't find it funny if I was in that situation. And I'd only find it funny if another person was in the situation as I'd be saying to them "wouldn't ya be sickened?" (Irish thing).

Nah he found it funny too, in fact he's the one that posted the picture on facebook.

Keane wrote:I know plenty people who are currently drinking and they come across like some of the most pathetic people I know. When someone posts on Facebook that he had to call his mother because he wasn't able to walk back home and collapsed on the street it doesn't really make me go "Oh that sounds fun!".

Almost all of the best people I know drink regularly. I think I've said this two or three times already, but it bears repeating: getting absolutely mullered out of your head is not the same thing as having a few drinks with friends. To put this in perspective, it's like you're refusing to eat anything, ever, because you saw some great big fat people trundling around.

I'm currently living next door to a pothead and while it's not really my business seeing him do a joint while holding his 2 year old son is disheartening.

spiraldoor wrote:

Keane wrote:I know plenty people who are currently drinking and they come across like some of the most pathetic people I know. When someone posts on Facebook that he had to call his mother because he wasn't able to walk back home and collapsed on the street it doesn't really make me go "Oh that sounds fun!".

Almost all of the best people I know drink regularly. I think I've said this two or three times already, but it bears repeating: getting absolutely mullered out of your head is not the same thing as having a few drinks with friends. To put this in perspective, it's like you're refusing to eat anything, ever, because you saw some great big fat people trundling around.

The only difference is that an alcoholic drink affects your behaviour. I don't want to have to take something in order to get along better with someone.

After three or four drinks I'm distinctly more outspoken, confident, relaxed and affectionate, in addition to being quite a lot funnier. For all intents and purposes, I'm a better person. I wish that was my natural state, but it's not. Life is full of compromises.

spiraldoor wrote:After three or four drinks I'm distinctly more outspoken, confident, relaxed and affectionate, in addition to being quite a lot funnier. For all intents and purposes, I'm a better person. I wish that was my natural state, but it's not. Life is full of compromises.

But maybe the rest of us here don't need alcohol to achieve such things? I know I can accomplish those things just fine without any sort of substance aid.

But again it's not really who you are. I'm not gonna drink so I'm more appealing to someone else. If they can't get along with me without beer then chances are it's not someone I'd spend much time with.

sonicbrawler182 wrote:But maybe the rest of us here don't need alcohol to achieve such things? I know I can accomplish those things just fine without any sort of substance aid.

I'm still capable of these things sober, but drink takes it to another level. It brings out the best aspects in me, as it does in many people that I know. You may think you're fine sober, but if you've never drank, there are probably aspects of your personality that you've never really expressed. Don't knock it till you've tried it.

Keane wrote:But again it's not really who you are. I'm not gonna drink so I'm more appealing to someone else. If they can't get along with me without beer then chances are it's not someone I'd spend much time with.

On the contrary, my tipsy self is a much truer and more unrestrained expression of who I really am. Again, if you've never drank, you might not quite understand what it's like. Drink doesn't enable me to get along with people I don't like – it enables me to get along even better with people I do like.

spiraldoor wrote:

Keane wrote:But again it's not really who you are. I'm not gonna drink so I'm more appealing to someone else. If they can't get along with me without beer then chances are it's not someone I'd spend much time with.

On the contrary, my tipsy self is a much truer and more unrestrained expression of who I really am. Again, if you've never drank, you might not quite understand what it's like. Drink doesn't enable me to get along with people I don't like – it enables me to get along even better with people I do like.

I fail to see why you'd need something to strengthen a relationship when you already have a good one, and combining that with the side effects and the amount of money people often waste on it is why I'm not interested.

I have never touched alcohol in my life simply because I can't stand the smell of it. I don't smoke or do drugs for the same reason. I wish none of these things existed so the world would smell better. In other words, I'm totally with sonicbrawler and Keane.

Also, I'm imagining a tipsy spiraldoor now. Awesome.

Keane wrote:I fail to see why you'd need something to strengthen a relationship when you already have a good one,

I'm not satisfied with all of my relationships being merely "good". Sometimes I like to have really deep and honest conversations with my close friends, which is much easier and more enjoyable when drunk. Yes, others enjoy my drunken company more, but I also enjoy theirs more. Another factor is how incomparably fun it is if you're with the right people, but you might not understand this until you've experienced it.

Keane wrote:and combining that with the side effects and the amount of money people often waste on it is why I'm not interested.

Money is absolutely a valid concern. I've spent quite a lot of mine drinking lately. If money's an issue for you, I'm afraid I have no rebuttal, but I can say without reservation that there's nothing quite like a great night out with really great friends.

When it comes to spending on drink it's not so much the alcohol but whatever I drink it with I sometimes feel ripped off with, like whenever I get something I can't have it much with carbonated drinks so I often have to settle for juices and they charge such extortionate money for just the juice - I had a Southern comfort and cranberry come to over a fiver one time and it put me off buying anything else off that bar. One reason I prefer to concoct my drinks at home.

Keane wrote:But again it's not really who you are. I'm not gonna drink so I'm more appealing to someone else. If they can't get along with me without beer then chances are it's not someone I'd spend much time with.

You won't know unless you try it, right? If you don't think you'll become an addict after your first couple drinks, then there's no harm in giving it a shot. If it's something that's active in your mind, then maybe you should wait until you're in a situation where, say, your friends are all getting a drink and you could join them, before making up your mind about whether you will enjoy the experience or not. Stop thinking about it as something 'artificial' or 'immoral', because it isn't any more immoral or artificial than the way music affects you.

Although, if someone doesn't want to try it out they don't have to.

Adsolution wrote:

Keane wrote:But again it's not really who you are. I'm not gonna drink so I'm more appealing to someone else. If they can't get along with me without beer then chances are it's not someone I'd spend much time with.

You won't know unless you try it, right? If you don't think you'll become an addict after your first couple drinks, then there's no harm in giving it a shot. If it's something that's active in your mind, then maybe you should wait until you're in a situation where, say, your friends are all getting a drink and you could join them, before making up your mind about whether you will enjoy the experience or not. Stop thinking about it as something 'artificial' or 'immoral', because it isn't any more immoral or artificial than the way music affects you.

Haha, well knowing myself I can easily see it turning into an addiction.

spiraldoor wrote:I'm not satisfied with all of my relationships being merely "good". Sometimes I like to have really deep and honest conversations with my close friends, which is much easier and more enjoyable when drunk. Yes, others enjoy my drunken company more, but I also enjoy theirs more. Another factor is how incomparably fun it is if you're with the right people, but you might not understand this until you've experienced it.

I don't consider it impossible to say something deep and honest without being drunk, but I won't argue it as it is true that I don't know and that alcohol does make one more interactive.

spiraldoor wrote:Money is absolutely a valid concern. I've spent quite a lot of mine drinking lately. If money's an issue for you, I'm afraid I have no rebuttal, but I can say without reservation that there's nothing quite like a great night out with really great friends.

But that ist fucks with your brain is not even something to think about? Simply ignoring it because it doesn't do serious damage to you now or because you drink "moderately" sound to me more like excuses. It's like people who smoke and then put something around the "Smoking kills" sticker to allow them to continue their false believe that nothing bad is gonna happen. Until they have lung cancer. Like I said a while back, if you put two men next to each other which have lived identical lives but one has been drinking for the past fifty years and the other hasn't there's not gonna be no difference when it comes to their health. And it's easy to say you'll quit when you get at a certain point in life but when I see someone like my grandfather still getting drunk I question how much longer he'll be around.