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Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:53 am
by DandyGuy
Rayman 3 seemed like a very feminist game in the pre-production. Thanks for the link

Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:29 am
by SpyroGuy
DandyGuy wrote:Rayman 3 seemed like a very feminist game in the pre-production. Thanks for the link

You call it a feminist game because it occasionally contains females here and there?
I'd say that something like Totally Spies would be feminist. Pretty awesome nonetheless though. xD
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:29 pm
by DandyGuy
SpyroGuy wrote:DandyGuy wrote:Rayman 3 seemed like a very feminist game in the pre-production. Thanks for the link

You call it a feminist game because it occasionally contains females here and there?
I'd say that something like Totally Spies would be feminist. Pretty awesome nonetheless though. xD
No just the way that lady talks in "Hoodlum Headquarters" It seemed sexual for some reason.

Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:31 pm
by Acarr
DandyGuy wrote:SpyroGuy wrote:DandyGuy wrote:Rayman 3 seemed like a very feminist game in the pre-production. Thanks for the link

You call it a feminist game because it occasionally contains females here and there?
I'd say that something like Totally Spies would be feminist. Pretty awesome nonetheless though. xD
No just the way that lady talks in "Hoodlum Headquarters" It seemed sexual for some reason.

How is someone speaking in an erotic way got anything to do with Feminism?

Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:34 pm
by Eren
Haruka wrote:I was organizing some messy folders and files when I found out a non-much known Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc screensaver that I had stored. I installed it and had a look to see what's about. Impressively enough I found few artworks that are really obscure (you could only find few in low resolution in Rayman 3 Print Studio) while others were never seen in other kind of media.
I invite you guys to have a look:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/69nuw ... _setup.zip
Also, could this be the female Hoodlum of the Headquarters?

Obscure artworks? nice, i'm going to download it now

Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:37 pm
by SpyroGuy
This whole side discussion reminds me of that other Origins related "argument" regarding the nymphs.
"OHMEHGAWDWHATISTHISSEXISMINAKIDSGAME!!!"
Sheesh.
Stuff such as this is MILES AWAY from anything even remotely resembling sexism.
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:37 pm
by DandyGuy
It appeared feminist to me. I don't mean to offend.
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:41 pm
by SpyroGuy
Isn't Feminism a political term, btw?
Something like even rights for both genders, I'm not too informed in the topic. How does that relate to the random intercom voice of Hoodlum HQ? xD
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:41 pm
by Acarr
DandyGuy wrote:It appeared feminist to me. I don't mean to offend.
You're not being offensive, you just seem confused.
SpyroGuy wrote:Isn't Feminism a political term, btw?
Something like even rights for both genders
Yeah it's exactly that.
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:46 pm
by SpyroGuy
Despite that I'm starting to get what DandyGuy meant in one way or another.
R3 undoubtedly has a few "dirtier" jokes and lines here and there, but these are just adding to the overall experience.
Some stuff I had no reason to notice and/or care about are becoming more obvious as the years pass and that's the true spirit of "E for Everyone".
People of all ages can enjoy the game, because it has stuff in it for everyone which SHOULDN'T be a problem for anyone. This also applies to the nymphs of Origins. I was kind of missing them from Legends' Origins section.

Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:50 pm
by Eren
Wow!

some of these are really amazing, thanks a lot for sharing the screensaver Haruka

oh by the way, where did you find the female hoodlum?
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:53 pm
by SpyroGuy
Eren wrote:Wow!

some of these are really amazing, thanks a lot for sharing the screensaver Haruka

oh by the way, where did you find the female hoodlum?
She IS in the game at Hoodlum HQ where the player's progression is restricted by a shooting gallery minigame.
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:55 pm
by Acarr
SpyroGuy wrote:R3 undoubtedly has a few "dirtier" jokes and lines here and there, but these are just adding to the overall experience.
Some stuff I had no reason to notice and/or care about are becoming more obvious as the years pass and that's the true spirit of "E for Everyone".
People of all ages can enjoy the game, because it has stuff in it for everyone which SHOULDN'T be a problem for anyone. This also applies to the nymphs of Origins. I was kind of missing them from Legends' Origins section.

I understand how some people might find the Nymphs design in the games sexist as they are sexualised and they're in cages and need to be rescued... the rating doesn't count as the game wasn't made by kids. You can get sexist PG films.
Tbh there are way worse games with sexism in them than Rayman Origins...
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:00 pm
by SpyroGuy
Indeed. Even Who Framed Roger Rabbit was ok for me, because it was damn hilarious and this content is indeed not created by toddlers for toddlers.

Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:01 pm
by Eren
SpyroGuy wrote:Eren wrote:Wow!

some of these are really amazing, thanks a lot for sharing the screensaver Haruka

oh by the way, where did you find the female hoodlum?
She IS in the game at Hoodlum HQ where the player's progression is restricted by a shooting gallery minigame.
Yes i know that, i ended rayman 3 four times but in the shooting gallery part you can see this

not that one

probably i just have a shitty memory, i don't know
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:08 pm
by Acarr
SpyroGuy wrote:Indeed. Even Who Framed Roger Rabbit was ok for me, because it was damn hilarious and this content is indeed not created by toddlers for toddlers.

The thing is about Jessica Rabbit, it's just a harmless joke because she's married to Roger Rabbit.
That's the joke.
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:25 pm
by SpyroGuy
Eren wrote:
Yes i know that, i ended rayman 3 four times but in the shooting gallery part you can see this

not that one

probably i just have a shitty memory, i don't know
You're right indeed. What I really meant is to note the similarities between the two, because she might be some scrapped character left in as an easter egg just like some of the creatures in Razoff's Mansion and inside the ice cubes of TLotLD.
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:01 pm
by Haruka
I found in my picture collection after tidying up some folders that were messy with all kinds of files.
By the way, check out some more obscure R3 scenarios here:
http://tofbourges.free.fr/BooK.htm#raymanIII_3
Credits to Miss-Cerasus who originally found this page. (Her abilities to find these things never ceases to amaze me!)
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:34 am
by SpyroGuy
I literally cannot put those desert pictures anywhere.
The model says R2 and it COULD be a cut area of the Sanctuary of Stone and Fire, but the setting's overall design suggests that it's probably an unused area for the Knaaren Desert.
Re: Rare Rayman Pictures
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:22 am
by Eeeebray
I am sure it could be from a very, very early Rayman 3 built, since the beta pictures seen on Unseen64 look kinda similiar to these Christophe Bourges posted. The beach area could be scrapped or it was really intended to be the start of developing Rayman 3! Who knows. I am surprised that Rayman's health bar was yellow first and later got red for unknown reasons. Same with collecting gems, because pictures and videos show how Rayman collected crowns in early BETA's.
Anyway, I'll asked a dev for Rayman Arena if he has unused animations from Rayman Arena to show me. I was surprised to get an answer, since many dev's won't write back for being busy or disinterested, so he told me he must find few DVD's to get them. He said he cannot guarantee me to find them. So let us hope he can show us something cool Rayman Arena related!