If there's one good thing Legends contributed to the lore of the series, it's the whole "everybody is actually hundreds of years old" implication. It adds to the timelessness of the universe, but perhaps best of all, we now have no more debates regarding Rayman's age. Is he 13? 16? 18? 21? Nope, he's centuries old!
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:28 am
by PluMGMK
He spent one of those centuries in some kind of enchanted super-sleep though.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:50 pm
by SpyroGuy
Sabertooth1000000000 wrote:If there's one good thing Legends contributed to the lore of the series, it's the whole "everybody is actually hundreds of years old" implication. It adds to the timelessness of the universe, but perhaps best of all, we now have no more debates regarding Rayman's age. Is he 13? 16? 18? 21? Nope, he's centuries old!
Tell me about it. I find debates like this quite pointless, tbh. With this logic, Mickey Mouse is 87 years old. Characters like him are timeless/ageless, yet Rayman shows all of them a middle finger because he's not only multiple centuries old, he's also bald (sort of, kind of, not really). xD
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:36 pm
by OCG
Well, to be honest, before Rayman Legends, Rayman was getting older throughout the games. If you pay attention on first 3 games, you can see how he grows from being a child to being a teen. But now that we have Legends, we no longer have to talk about his age
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:58 am
by Keane
How does RayWiki treat whatever is considered canon? Because you could then argue that there'd have to be a gap of entire centuries between 1 and Origins, but on the other hand, I don't think Origins/Legends can really be counted as "sequels", rather just part of the main line of games. It's not doing a poor job at giving any depth to the Glade, it's simply treating it like a Mushroom Kingdom type world and not acknowledging the trilogy.
Rayman 3 more or less dropped most of what was build up during the Rayman 2 era, but it did still connect itself with the game and, to an extent, what was established as the Glade. Origins doesn't deny the existence of the previous installments, but it also doesn't do much more than just taking elements of those games and redesigning them for a new start for Rayman. I'm pretty sure that when Origins became its final product, developers purposely cut connections to the trilogy in the hopes of potentially turning Rayman into a very free to work character like Mario.
TL;DR, is Origins considered an official sequel to Rayman 3? And how are inconsistencies with the trilogy treated?
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:20 am
by Bradandez
Man, we've been over this and over this.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:23 am
by Rayfist
Some people I think crave to deep into the lore in a way that wasn't exactly intended for such debate.
Rayman's story is no Metal Gear, it's very straight forward, and the "timelessness" that Saber mentioned is to make Rayman a very "Free to work" character as Keane stated. I do agree with the both of them. It will expand the Rayman universe without having any "End" to it (Course game series never go on forever, but you get what I mean)
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:13 am
by Master
On the broad scale, all games are part of one extremely inconsistent continuity, we try to take things at face value.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:19 pm
by Shrooblord
At least it's not Zelda.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:27 pm
by Master
True, we're still able to place them in one timeline.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:31 pm
by PluMGMK
TBH I don't see how the heroes' being in suspended animation for one particular century (after defeating a guy who was trying to reorder the whole universe) creates a sense of timelessness for the whole series.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:31 pm
by SpyroGuy
Indeed and all the sleeping stuff actually makes sense and could be used as a potential hook to bring Rayman 2 and 3 together with the help of the recent titles. The opening cutscene of R3, anyone?
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:33 pm
by PluMGMK
Hang on, if I remember Legends' opening cutscene correctly, century-long sleep is NOT normal. I recall a simile suggesting that.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:34 pm
by Bradandez
They were under a mysterious snoozing spell...
Or perhaps they just needed a big nap.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:36 pm
by Master
Well, let's take a look then:
BD mentions them being under the influence of a "mysterious snoozing power," kinda vague, but you've got a point. The line after is a bit hard to make out, but it does sound like the alternative that Brad's stated above. I think he said, "Or my little ones just needed to take a big nap."
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:43 pm
by Bradandez
Does that mean I'm right?
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:44 pm
by PluMGMK
Of course it does!
But even if it is just a big nap, Polokus' words still strongly suggest that it's abnormal.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:45 pm
by Bradandez
Explain plz.
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:46 pm
by PluMGMK
Would he say it was "mysterious" if the heroes took century-long naps all the time?
Re: Rayman himself
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:47 pm
by Master
Hmm, the issue here is that it's pretty vague, and more there just to set things up. It could very well be one way or the other.