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Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:47 pm
by Bradandez
He only referred the snoozing power as mysterious, he laughs a humble laugh after he mentions the big nap.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:49 pm
by Master
Well, I feel like jesting. What if his laughter implies that he's the one who put them to sleep? He does have a thing for snores.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:51 pm
by Bradandez
He doesn't seem like he would do that though. I don't get that sort of vibe off of him.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:54 pm
by Master
I was jesting, though I wonder if he did insist they take a rest after RO, it would befit his laid-back nature.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:56 pm
by PluMGMK
Whatever about vagueness, I think that the fact that the creator of the universe used the word "mysterious", even as part of just one hypothesis, strongly suggests that what was happening (a century-long sleep) was abnormal.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:56 pm
by Bradandez
I guess so. Though if Polokus didn't do it, how could Rayman and friends sustain that nap for over a century without any outside forces/disturbances?

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:57 pm
by Shrooblord
There is more at play than just the whimsies of one god, perhaps...

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:58 pm
by PluMGMK
Off the top of my head, Ales' death caused some kind of enchantment to affect those in the vicinity.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:58 pm
by Master
Hmm, perhaps Palmito got annoyed again...

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:58 pm
by Bradandez
But Ales didn't die. 2spooky

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:59 pm
by PluMGMK
How do you know he didn't die?

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:00 pm
by Master
He multiplied instead, did he not?

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:01 pm
by Bradandez
How do you know that he did die?

How would he multiplied if he had been killed?

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:02 pm
by Master
Mind you, him multiplying implies that he's a nightmare, which we know Ales was not. Could the Dark Teensies perhaps be the manifestation of the fear Bubble Dreamer might have had induced when Ales was attempting to oust him?

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:04 pm
by PluMGMK
When I first watched the intro, I got the strong impression that the five Dark Teensies were new nightmares (but probably with the memories of the original Ales). Though watching it again I could be swayed either way.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:06 pm
by Bradandez
I don't know about you guys but the implication of a Teensie being a nightmare is pretty freakin' hilarious to me.

But are you sure Ales wasn't a nightmare? I read something saying he was a nightmare that was really well disguised as a good guy.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:09 pm
by Master
That's the thing though, isn't it? The RO beta script made it explicit that Ales was a disgraced magician who turned his work to creating order in the Glade. However, in the final release, it's kept very vague as to what he is. So, who knows really? Might be the case, might not.

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:10 pm
by Bradandez
Can dreams convert into nightmares though?

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:34 pm
by PluMGMK
Usually, they can (IRL that is).
But either way, Dark Teensies behave much more like nightmares than the real Ales. They gratuitously abuse the Glade's residents and don't seem all that interested in creating order (except arguably the 20000 Lums under the Sea one).

Re: Rayman himself

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:42 pm
by Bradandez
You know why? Because the Dark Teensie is the original Ales! Think about it. He's the one who built another mechanical empire but this time underwater. He was the first one to be shown off to the public. It's too coincidental, don't ya think?