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Re: Important Information

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:40 pm
by foultzboyz
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They are going to have a harder time though. Eve is very secure and I'm sure Ubisoft would take more action this time around. I highly doubt it will work this time...
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Re: Important Information

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:38 am
by Anti
Blackorb wrote:ARZO is not aiming to hack RZ members but to bury the disgustingly unfair board they have joined. RZ is going down and almost everything was planned. Revenge is a dish best served cold, so prepare for your death, miserable substitute of a board.
The New Eve RZ has absoluetely nothing to do with the old phBB RZ. Especially the fact that all the admins and a lot of the members from those boards have left. So there's nothing to have revenge on. Whatever you'd be doing would be without reason and seen as a random forum bashing.

A couple things I'd like to clear up...

1) A couple pages back, 'pok2' shared some words about the whole situation along with a word about taking away any bitterness between the two communities. That was actually me. Guilty as charged. ^^

2) I know you guys may have some beef against some of the users and mods at the current RZ, and if it's anything personal, then I won't get into it. But honestly, especially guys like Xei and Pok, they're great guys. ;) They're fun to be around, they add to the community, and they've got respect for this community - whether you guys realize it or not. One reason they might seem so bitter over here is because they're just on the defensive - the same you guys would be at RZ, I'm sure. ;)

3) The reason we don't announce ARZO over at RZ is because, in all honesty, they're not a threat anymore. Groupee's system (now called Eve) is so much more stable for plenty of reasons. One being, it hosts tons of gaming forums. With games come hackers. They're ready for any oncoming strike. Two being, they make 2 or more backups of the forums each day. If ARZO even managed to take down the forums (which I doubt they can, because of the strength of Eve), the Eve system would have it up in a few hours or less. And considering Ubi is full of computer experts (hello, major gaming company), they might even be able to find out who did it, despite the blocks the hackers try to make.

Besides, no one's created a virus for the Eve system. The virus that ARZO used, or at least a variation of it, was being used on phBB forums everywhere. It's going to be tough to hack the new system.

So that's why we don't announce ARZO's "return" - they don't threaten the community at all like they did the old one. No reason to get everyone upset over nothing. ;)

Re: Important Information

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:08 am
by neo
Anti wrote:The New Eve RZ has absoluetely nothing to do with the old phBB RZ. Especially the fact that all the admins and a lot of the members from those boards have left. So there's nothing to have revenge on. Whatever you'd be doing would be without reason and seen as a random forum bashing.
Well, I agree. :) It is random... But I guess there is some motivation that fuels Arzo to do this.... But I have no idea. :?
Anti wrote:2) I know you guys may have some beef against some of the users and mods at the current RZ, and if it's anything personal, then I won't get into it. But honestly, especially guys like Xei and Pok, they're great guys. ;) They're fun to be around, they add to the community, and they've got respect for this community - whether you guys realize it or not. One reason they might seem so bitter over here is because they're just on the defensive - the same you guys would be at RZ, I'm sure. ;)
Well, I know I have no beef with anyone at RZ, I rarely go because most people there ignore me, I assume they do. ^^ I would have been as active as here, but I guessed I was the same as Istilldunno, of course I was, but he was treated like shit.... I felt bad for him. :(
Anti wrote:Besides, no one's created a virus for the Eve system. The virus that ARZO used, or at least a variation of it, was being used on phBB forums everywhere. It's going to be tough to hack the new system.
Yeah, it will be. :wink:

Re: Important Information

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:03 am
by Jman
So how and why would they be a whole organisation against rayman zone? It seems a little far fetched if you know what I mean.

Re: Important Information

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:53 pm
by foultzboyz
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Hunchman801 stated some reasons on the first page.

ARZO isn't a threat to me and I doubt they can do anything to the boards without it being setup in a few hours.
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Re: Important Information

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:18 pm
by Xenon
Jman wrote:So how and why would they be a whole organisation against rayman zone? It seems a little far fetched if you know what I mean.
It is because, in their opinion, they were unfairly banned.

Re: Important Information

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:30 pm
by Hunchman801
Xeiqu wrote:But anyway, I've never seen the Groupee RZ be unfair... I think the only people we've banned are t3h1 and matyuv, who actually wanted to be. :|
Xei is right, since it looks like Droolie and Pok2 were both unbanned. But it seems that ARZO are willing to take their revenge on anything called RZ, whether it is the same thing as the phpBB board or not.
Anti wrote:A couple pages back, 'pok2' shared some words about the whole situation along with a word about taking away any bitterness between the two communities. That was actually me. Guilty as charged. ^^
So, the mysterious guest from RZ was Anti, not Pok2...
Anti wrote:I know you guys may have some beef against some of the users and mods at the current RZ, and if it's anything personal, then I won't get into it. But honestly, especially guys like Xei and Pok, they're great guys. ;) They're fun to be around, they add to the community, and they've got respect for this community - whether you guys realize it or not. One reason they might seem so bitter over here is because they're just on the defensive - the same you guys would be at RZ, I'm sure. ;)
A few members may often disagree with Xei, but do not think most of PC members dislike RZ moderators and RZ itself ;) Actually, they have no reason to be on the defensive, they are welcome here even if they do not like PC ^^ They might be irritated by some members repeating they do not like the new system RZ uses, but most of them just feel disappointed, I think... I only get mad when I see people unfairly attacking PC, and this is understandable if you consider the time I have spent to improve it.

By the way, all of you are saying ARZO cannot hack the Groupee system so there is no risk, but even if the first statement was right, the reasoning is wrong and so is the conclusion. It looks like only Xei understood it...

Re: Important Information

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:49 pm
by Anti
Hunchman801 wrote:A few members may often disagree with Xei, but do not think most of PC members dislike RZ moderators and RZ itself ;) Actually, they have no reason to be on the defensive, they are welcome here even if they do not like PC ^^ They might be irritated by some members repeating they do not like the new system RZ uses, but most of them just feel disappointed, I think... I only get mad when I see people unfairly attacking PC, and this is understandable if you consider the time I have spent to improve it.
Alright. I was going off of the vibes I thought I felt earlier, but I haven't been here long enough to know it all. ;)
Hunchman801 wrote:By the way, all of you are saying ARZO cannot hack the Groupee system so there is no risk, but even if the first statement was right, the reasoning is wrong and so is the conclusion. It looks like only Xei understood it...
I guess I doubted their powers a little... you'd know best. But what I was trying to say was that even if they do hack, it should be alright. After all, we've already contacted some admins about it, and they obviously think the system is strong enough because they haven't acted on anything yet. ;)

Re: Important Information

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:10 pm
by Hunchman801
I fully agree with you, even if they managed to hack Groupee, Ubi could restore backups and this is why people think there is no risk, but it does not make them inoffensive... I remember they had once flooded the French RZ with hundreds of posts, saying « La revanche est un plat qui se mange froid », which translates into “Revenge is a dish best served cold”...

Re: Important Information

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:22 pm
by timoo
Wow, a nice RZ moderator. I thought this species had disappeared :D

Re: Important Information

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:46 pm
by #Rubber mark#
As Antitoon said somewhere, it is nice to have communications between the two boards.

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:06 pm
by Newray
Yes. And I'm a RZ moderator for many months now, just like Xei and Anti. Altrough I'm not as active as both of them, because my lack in time the last weeks. And it's right that we didn't banned any other 'real' RZ members than matyuv and t3h1. And I also understand what Hunchman said about ARZO and the old RaymanZone. And by the way, I personally think that ARZO is trying to hack into a mod/admin account on the Ubi forums in order to destroy RZ.

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:35 pm
by RZ_Pok2
Will you stop, I am pok2 the uber moderator from RZ and this place stinks, RZ is the best, all join RZ! RZ rocks! RZ!

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:53 pm
by Droolie
Not really. You aren't pok2.

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:12 pm
by RZ_Pok2
I am the true Pok2! I swear it! Do you want me to prove it? I am also known as Opaqit! Ha! You trust me now!

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:39 pm
by Droolie
The true pok2 doesn't post posts like that... and I don't believe you, you also misspelled Opaquit...

You're wasting your time :roll:

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:45 pm
by Hunchman801
And here comes another dude trying to impersonate an RZ moderator... This is just ridiculous and pointless :| The true Pok2 already has an account here and if he came, he would use it :roll:

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:55 pm
by Xenon
Pok2 is much better at posting than that imposter anyway.

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:23 pm
by Hunchman801
Yes, and I never saw him acting this way.

Re: Important Information

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:24 pm
by Xenon
And pok2 doesn't come from France :lol: