Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:05 am
Ah well, perhaps I ought to see if I can share the textures online sometime.
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Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:24 am
That would be neat, though mucking around in the system myself should be tons of fun if I manage to get back to a computer someday.
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:04 am
We're keeping a surprise for Textures of Rayman 2... (possible extraction of them, me and Droolie are working on it)
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:34 am
Hm, what do you mean by "extraction," wasn't that already achieved with the tools?
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:44 am
Only the PC version, we'll extract the DC textures.
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:55 am
Ah, I see. That is exciting (...I kinda spoiled the surprise, didn't I?)
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:39 am
Yes..Master wrote:Ah, I see. That is exciting (...I kinda spoiled the surprise, didn't I?)
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:01 pm
I had a look and I noticed that the texture for the door shaped like Jano's head is yellow. It seems that all world textures in the Cave of Bad Dreams are put through some kind of filter that removes the red. Maybe that filter is another texture somewhere in the files, and can be removed…Master wrote:Interesting, I was going through the R2 textures again, but I couldn't find the textures for the Cave of Bad Dreams, yet, I did find like textures in "textures_volcan," they're the wrong colour, but undeniably the same in look from the Cave's. Also, that folder has the textures for the green stuff you slide down during the Jano chase, which seems to be named after crystals. What's interesting, is that some of these textures are used in the Sanctuary of Stone and Fire, but not all of them (I don't think there's textures for the climbable bones used in the Sanctuary, yet that texture is present and coloured for it, even though it's actually used in the Cave).
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:08 pm
Possibly. Look for a lightmap file and see what happens if you make it completely transparent.
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:10 pm
Hmm, so the Cave of Bad Dream's textures are recoloured, eh? I'll snoop around for this filter texture as well.PluMGMK wrote:I had a look and I noticed that the texture for the door shaped like Jano's head is yellow. It seems that all world textures in the Cave of Bad Dreams are put through some kind of filter that removes the red. Maybe that filter is another texture somewhere in the files, and can be removed…Master wrote:Interesting, I was going through the R2 textures again, but I couldn't find the textures for the Cave of Bad Dreams, yet, I did find like textures in "textures_volcan," they're the wrong colour, but undeniably the same in look from the Cave's. Also, that folder has the textures for the green stuff you slide down during the Jano chase, which seems to be named after crystals. What's interesting, is that some of these textures are used in the Sanctuary of Stone and Fire, but not all of them (I don't think there's textures for the climbable bones used in the Sanctuary, yet that texture is present and coloured for it, even though it's actually used in the Cave).
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:03 pm
Actually, now that I look at it again, I think it's just that the maps are lit using only blue lights. You can kind of see red patches on the textures where they are brightest.
Ah well, once again the CoBD makes me wish it were possible to decompile/hack the maps!
Ah well, once again the CoBD makes me wish it were possible to decompile/hack the maps!
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:07 pm
We share that sentiment, while my knowledge of modelling and the like is nil, I'd love to see the model data for myself. After all, who knows what other secrets we've yet to discover? We've only just got into the textures and we've made quite a few discoveries.
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:15 pm
I just extracted the Vignette file and found that six pieces of concept art ended up in the game as unused loading screens!
I also noticed that there's a water version of the flame-thrower texture. Was that used in the game?
I also noticed that there's a water version of the flame-thrower texture. Was that used in the game?
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:23 pm
I don't think so, I noticed that the Ice Sanctuary textures had an Ice version of the Flamethrower holes seen in the Rock and Fire Sanctuaries, maybe it was meant to be a parallel Ice version? Misread, we're both looking at the same thing. Yeah, I don't think it was used in game.
And Vignettes is extractable also, eh? Neat, I'll check those out for meself now then.
And Vignettes is extractable also, eh? Neat, I'll check those out for meself now then.
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:25 pm
I think it was probably meant to be something which would shoot out a waterfall, either continuously or intermittently.
Maybe the water would be borderline freezing and hurt Rayman by extreme cooling, similar to the streams of hot lava.
Maybe the water would be borderline freezing and hurt Rayman by extreme cooling, similar to the streams of hot lava.
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:31 pm
Hmm, we know Rayman had a unique animation for getting electrocuted, could it be that he had one for getting frozen?
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:43 pm
That sounds like something that could be checked with Cheat Engine…
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:57 pm
Hmm, really? I've no experience with it meself, so, any method in mind?
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:44 pm
It's been a long time since I've dabbled in Cheat Engine, but I think it could be possible to find the variable for the animation sequence playing on Rayman's model. For example, let him get shocked, check what variables have changed. Once he goes back to normal, check again. Jump into some water so the swimming animation plays, see what's changed, jump back onto land, check again. Something like that.
Re: Project: UnLockRay ( ULR / REL )
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:46 pm
Ah, the ol' narrowing down variables trick, seems reasonable.