Yeah I'm glad they did as I thought the concepts they came up with sounded pretty bad and seemed deprived of anything that made Jak and Daxter so unique and special in the first place. Did you see the concept art of Daxter? He looked so lifeless and weird
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:36 pm
by Henchman1028
Bzzit wrote:Yeah I'm glad they did as I thought the concepts they came up with sounded pretty bad and seemed deprived of anything that made Jak and Daxter so unique and special in the first place. Did you see the concept art of Daxter? He looked so lifeless and weird
That happens with most games that use to be cartoony these days.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:38 pm
by OCG
Bzzit wrote:Yeah I'm glad they did as I thought the concepts they came up with sounded pretty bad and seemed deprived of anything that made Jak and Daxter so unique and special in the first place. Did you see the concept art of Daxter? He looked so lifeless and weird
Can you link them?
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:43 pm
by Bzzit
OldClassicGamer wrote:
Bzzit wrote:Yeah I'm glad they did as I thought the concepts they came up with sounded pretty bad and seemed deprived of anything that made Jak and Daxter so unique and special in the first place. Did you see the concept art of Daxter? He looked so lifeless and weird
Can you link them?
bad quality, but is the only image surfacing the internet.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:46 pm
by Henchman1028
Bzzit wrote:
OldClassicGamer wrote:
Bzzit wrote:Yeah I'm glad they did as I thought the concepts they came up with sounded pretty bad and seemed deprived of anything that made Jak and Daxter so unique and special in the first place. Did you see the concept art of Daxter? He looked so lifeless and weird
Can you link them?
bad quality, but is the only image surfacing the internet.
Why does one of those pictures look like Blinx?
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:47 pm
by Bzzit
Haha, he does indeed look like a cat in some of those pictures. The rat like concept in the top right really creeps me out though.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:57 pm
by OCG
If that Jak game was made I would most likely dislike it more than The Lost Frontier.
Speaking of underrated games, Prinny deserves to be mentioned. I want Prinny 3. I would even buy Vita for that game.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:35 pm
by Master
Yeah, and it's because of stuff like that, that I am glad the devs realised that they were going too far, and scrapped it.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:53 pm
by Bzzit
Yeah, major kudos to Naughty Dog for putting the fans interest first and scrapping it. I think its smart decisions like that which have been a major part of forming Naughty dogs ridiculously good track record.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:24 pm
by Haruka
Croc: Legend of the Gobbos + Croc 2: These games, especially the first one, did sell millions of copies JUST for PS1 and it was considered as a rival of Mario and Crash Bandicoot back in 1997. Many people bash the games unfairly (Gamespot's reviews are bullshit), and Croc 1 was the game that introduced me for the first time into 3D platforming and it features a good longevity and challenge during the whole walkthrough. The graphics (Note: PS1 doesn't make justice, check the PC version) might look too simplistic for many but detailed backgrounds were never an intention of Argonaut Software (In Croc 2 it gets a little more detailed). They focused more in the gameplay and the charm of the characters and the story by keeping them simple. It is a simplicity that actually works and the universe itself captured my heart, getting a place on it forever. Yes, Croc was responsible for growing me a liking in gaming and teaching me how to play videogames in a keyboard (a special note also for the PC version, where the controls are sharp contrary to the other versions). Its soundtrack (especially for the first game) is one of the most beautiful and heart-warming ones I've ever heard in a videogame, that does helps you to imerse in the game (other note for the soundtrack, the PS1 version is more complete than the PC one). Justin Scharvona was the perfect musician for the two games. In Croc 1, although the boss battles are one of the biggest weaknesses of the game (you really don't need dextirity or to pull up for your neurons to beat them), this gets easily covered by the longevity and the challenging levels that get harder each time you proceed (Croc 2 isn't super direct to defeat some of the bosses though). Unfortunately, the company went bankrupt in January 2004 and the IP now belongs to Jez San who sadly does not have plans to bring back the franchise, which is very sad. I recommend Croc's (canon) games to everybody who likes cartoonish 3D platforming games in the third person which own a classical structure like Crash Bandicoot 1 and Rayman 2: The Great Escape (Crash 1 owns a world map divided in islands, while R2 owns the Hall of Doors [Note: For Croc 2's case, the hub world works like Rayman Revolution]). If you like Rayman 2, you hardly will dislike Croc's games. I have the two complete walkthroughs of Croc 1 and 2 that can be checked if anybody is curious, but these games are truly underrated in my opinion.
Beyond Good & Evil: It is sad this creation of Michel Ancel was a commercial failure because this is a really good game with interesting stuff on it. I enjoyed how the story was linked to the photo taking and the free exploration of Hillys. The voice cast and the character animations were other thing I appreciated on the game while having in account it was made in 2003. I give also a particular praising for its soundtrack composed by Héral, that also contributes for the immersion in the game. I hope with the making of BG&2 more people start to get interested in the first game, that I might do a walkthrough one day.
Gambys: The first portuguese videogame to be created, and the first videogame of the world having more than 60000 colours (this back in the DOS era), mixing 2D and 3D animations. This game designed by the now extinct Viagem Interactive missed a chance to get known in Europe/English market or even worldwide due to the bad luck of Windows 95's approach to its release. Since the game was designed for DOS, Psygnosis gave up in its distribution in the UK. A real mistake. This game gave profit to Viagem Interactive inside the Iberian Peninsule market and it is incredibly addictive and easy to learn how to play (even if it doesn't like it when you look to gameplay footage, but there's an accessible tutorial that teaches you the basics, aswell the first 10 levels are introductory). I also swear to god I never saw other videogame using the same gameplay mechanics as Gambys, so you will find here an original concept of gameplay. I have a full walkthrough on my YouTube account, BUT it was back in the time I was emulating it through a virtual pc so the graphical and musical/sfx quality don't make justice. I might remasterize this gameplay with the real quality that you can get when you run it through DOSBox along with a patch. If you like puzzle/strategy games, please give it a chance.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:00 pm
by Rayfist
Very good list Haruka! I'm still replaying through BG&E right now, still love it!
Another underrated game is Yazuka 5, game totally needs to be localized to America!
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:22 pm
by OCG
I honestly enjoyed reading your Croc thoughts Haruka. Everything you said is true. Jez San should reconsider, try kickstarter, sell it to Sony, anything.
@Rayfist
Yakuza 5? Ryū ga Gotoku Kenzan (aka Yakuza Kenzan) is the real deal. That game is very underrated. It focuses on Miyamoto Musashi - my favourite Japanese Samurai. It would be cool to get the game in west.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:33 pm
by Rayfist
A chance of it being localized is possible, since Sega has done so before with Miku Hatsune Project Diva, which I still need.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:35 pm
by OCG
That is a music game right? I remember supporting localization on FB but I never checked gameplay for some reason
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:42 pm
by Rayfist
It is a rhythm game. Japanese rhythm games are some of my favorites, including the DJMAX series.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:42 pm
by ikke471
This is to haruka about Croc:
I agree with allmot everything you said but the main thing that put me off the game were the controls.
The game was good and all but the most importantant thing about a game (for me me) is how the game plays and croc plays like any 3d platformer... on an ice track.
He wibbly wobbles all over the plays and I die a lot to that.. it's just not fun.. at least for me.
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:47 pm
by OCG
ikke471 wrote:This is to haruka about Croc:
I agree with allmot everything you said but the main thing that put me off the game were the controls.
The game was good and all but the most importantant thing about a game (for me me) is how the game plays and croc plays like any 3d platformer... on an ice track.
He wibbly wobbles all over the plays and I die a lot to that.. it's just not fun.. at least for me.
What version you played PC or PS1?
Re: Games you consider underrated
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:01 pm
by Haruka
The controls in PS1 are atrocious indeed, but in PC they are sharp and precise. I have no issues at all in controlling Croc on PC since he goes exactly where I want him to go, on PS1 it often leads to death.