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Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:13 pm
by Rulez
I agree. I prefer
The European Magician wrote:Hiya fucks! You wanna know what's goin' ahn?? Lemme tell you the storry of Rrrrrrrrrrrayeman!
because
The American Magician wrote:Hi, fox! Yippie-ki-yay cheeseburger on?? Let me tell youuu the story of Raymanah!
is cheesy as hell.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:16 pm
by Master
Indeed, my preference lies solely with the EU version, slightly less focused on being over the top, and more focused on just telling the tale.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:35 pm
by OCG
I guess it is just a personal preferance.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:23 pm
by Shrooblord
Hey, while trying to listen to the US version for comparison, I found you, OldClassicGamer, on a YouTube video's comments section!

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:24 pm
by Raymanarenaps2
That is interesting.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:47 pm
by Haruka
I never heard tthe American Magician... Can anyone show me a video?

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:55 pm
by Master
http://youtu.be/loGjp2WRQQE?t=50s
Normally I'd embed, but seeing as there's some clutter beforehand, I'd rather just get you straight to the matter at hand.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:17 pm
by OCG
Shrooblord wrote:Hey, while trying to listen to the US version for comparison, I found you, OldClassicGamer, on a YouTube video's comments section!
What a suprise :o
It's not like I hang out on YouTube very often :winkgrin:

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:26 pm
by Adsolution
spiraldoor wrote:The American voice is ridiculously over-the-top. That's not emotion, it's bad acting. The European voice is pretty hammy too, but he knows when to moderate it for dramatic effect, and he has a kind of innocence and earnestness that set the scene for the game much better than the cynical huckster thing the American version's got going on.
In the introduction, the Magician is clearly standing on some kind a stage in a spotlight, and he's also dressed like a 20's stage-performing magician. As such, that's immediately what I expect him to sound like, and in the American version, that's exactly what he sounds like. The animation for him is very wild and enthusiastic, and the voice accommodates this perfectly. It's enthusiastic and bright, and then it's quiet and brooding when it needs to be, just as if he were speaking to an audience, which is clearly what the setting of the introduction has implied. Sure, it's overly exaggerated, but that's exactly how stage performers acted at the time, which is why it works. An extravagant voice for an extravagant character, which is not only notable through his appearance and animation, but is further reinforced through his goals in Origins.

In the European version, he sounds like he's being voiced by a physically sick not-voice-actor who is speaking in falsetto for the very first time in their life and in light of that is constantly trying as hard as they can not to let their voice crack, which it sounds like it's about to crack every other sentence, and I'm pretty sure it actually does a bit at one point as well. Not only is the voice incredibly unfitting for a stage-magician, the quality of the recording is beyond abysmal: it sounds far too close, and he's speaking far too quietly to be able to hear him at the implied distance, and the low-mid frequencies are far too prominent to properly compensate for the quietness and distance from the camera when he's on-screen. As a final note on the actor's performance, it seems like half the time he isn't even aware of what he's doing, and the emphasis on certain words is just nonexistent. When he says "Let me tell you the story of Rayman", I literally snort it sounds so out of place; it's almost like the voice actor was purposely trying to come up with the most unfitting voice possible for the character, as well as mocking it with the worst emotive voice acting imaginable.

I hate the European voice with a passion. I think the only reason it was even allowed through production is for the same reason 'Bad Rayman' was: as a first game developed by some very French people, I doubt that most of them would know what's best for the English-speakers, let alone even understand the language, which is exactly the case with almost all poor low-budget dubbing. They just have to trust that the voice actors are doing their job.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:32 pm
by OCG
Ad, you could not discribe any better how I feel about both Magicians. Heck, even Japanese Magician sounds better then Europian one in my opinion.
And honestly I think it was a silly idea to use different voice actor for Europe and different for America. It is same language so why not use American Magician's voice for both PAL and NTSC? I also agree that Bad Rayman is just a bad translation of obviously meant Dark Rayman.
BTW Guys, does anyone know where can I find American opening of Rayman Brain Games? I only seen PAL version Rayman Junior and I would like to compare Magician in that opening too.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:23 pm
by spiraldoor
Are they even different actors? The American one seems to slip into the European voice for a moment at "nature and people".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... WRQQE&t=66

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... V6F90&t=13

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:32 pm
by OCG
You do have point, it sounds same to me as well on that part. Now, If it is same actor, I wonder why did he even record his voice twice and why did he talk different?

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:29 pm
by Shrooblord
Maybe they realised the European release wasn't all that good, like Ad is trying to point out. Was the US release after the EU one? Was the production of either on-going before the other? If US was first and the voice actor's the same, I don't quite see why they directed the actor differently the second time.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:34 pm
by OCG
Release date is first in America and then Europe, but who knows which one was finished first. Heck Jaguar version was made first but it arrived in stores after PS1 version.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:34 am
by THEdragon
Woah, sorry for the sudden change in discussion but has anyone here seen this fan animation?


Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:41 am
by Master
That was beautiful, I forgot just how brilliant some of Rayman 1's soundtrack can be.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:02 pm
by OCG
Both animation and music are amazing.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:06 pm
by Shrooblord
If I look at everything closely, I get the feeling it's all done with the mouse, which makes it quite a lot nicer. Very cute (set of) animation(s) (I've contrinued watching their other videos).

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:09 pm
by Master
I've given his other Rayman videos a viewing, and given them all a well deserved like.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:11 pm
by Rayrobi
Shrooblord wrote:(I've contrinued watching their other videos).
Not only you, that really is amazing.