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Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:34 pm
by The Edditaur
Tbh, I didn't tell anyone when I moved into Secondary School that I had Aspergers (Effectively keeping it under wraps), and it didn't really make any difference, I was still bullied up until this year (I'm in Year 10 now). People are just mean because they want to pick on the guy who acts different to everyone else, for one motive or another. Now, whether you admit you have a mental disorder or not, people will still notice that you're acting a tad differently compared to the other people and thus take action. While putting people into groups isn't necessarily going to help prevent mockery, like Spiral said your mental health is more important. 'Tis the way it is, unfortunately. :(

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:38 pm
by Master
Likewise, if it wasn't for the fact I was diagnosed, well, I'd definitely have not been the person I am today, who is rather content.
Spiral and Edditaur are right, you're born the way you are, even if I wasn't diagnosed, I'd still exhibit behaviour contrary to the "norm," which would have ended up me getting targeted anyway. Atleast with the knowledge of what it is that makes me different, and having the support needed to bypass it, I can live being with those who'd oppose me.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:04 pm
by Adsolution
Mammothphant 2 wrote:But one diagnose would be good actually. A diagnose for teasers and bullies. The bullying and teasing is very good reason to give a "dumbass badge".
That's an incredibly short-sighted remark in multiple regards. Whilst you yourself complain about being labeled as autistic, why do you think anyone deserves a label that serves no other purpose than to make the person look like a fool? With that said, there's even more reason to give autistic people a big fat label, as it serves much more purpose than to be derogatory to someone with no neurotic impairment. Along with that, it's proven that the majority of bullies don't know that they are actually bullies. I wasn't an exception; I wasn't very nice to the kids who were younger than me when I was in middle school, and the people who were older than myself thoroughly bullied me, but I didn't know I wasn't being nice, in fact, I actually thought I was getting along with the kids. Even if the bullies did realise that they weren't the nicest people around, that doesn't make them stupid. Kindness does not justify intelligence, nor does it justify realisation. Bullies require just as much understanding as the underdog does; maybe you could try to find out why the bully is a bully. Maybe if the victim and the bully develop an understanding of each other they can both gain a new perspective: the victim would understand that bullies aren't bloodthirsty mongrels, and the bully would realise that picking on people really is harmful.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:35 pm
by The Edditaur
Actually, that's a good point RayFan, mostly when you think of the idea of a bully you either think of "a truly Heartless bastard" or the insecure child who bullies because of troubles at home or something else. But I never really thought about that third one, where the bully doesn't actually realize he is bullying. I'll admit I have a friend in my year (Who also appears to have aspergers, though a bit worse than me it seems) who for at least 2 of the years I've known him I couldn't help but making fun of. I'm not proud of doing that, and looking back on it I feel disgusted at the thought I mocked someone else because of how they behaved despite the fact that I have the same behavioral tendencies (though his more so, of course), but while this was happening my Autistic brain was picturing a world where nobody actually likes me, and I was being bullied a lot by other people. I didn't really have any friends either, lowering my mood drastically. Thus I found finding someone to let off some steam on refrained me from going axe-murderer crazy. Now that everything's cleared up and only one person still tries the odd joke when he can get one, and I have an actual circle of friends, I suddenly stopped being so mean. We've been good friends ever since. So there's another reason for the bullies' bullying. They're sometimes the misunderstood ones who bully because they don't know what else to do. Quite a depressing thought sadly, but you have to do what you have to do sometimes.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:03 am
by Spanex
Well, if everyone is telling their life story now, I might as well.

I have what is called Pervasive Development Disorder-Not Otherwise Specified or PDD-NOS for short. It's one of the less 'deep' autistic forms. It usually means that a child fails to develop social skills which was also my case. I required help developing speech, and I still fear communicating with strangers (customers to be more specific) in fear I will disappoint them.

As you can see if I never got help I would have turned out much worse than who I am now. In fact I would have never come out of my shell and actually be able to say 'hello' to passer-by's. So it's a good thing that they diagnose early and get the children with such mental ailments some extra help by bringing them to the proper schools. It's not a characteristic, and it's definitely not something we choose to have, just as much as being gay.

Now, my ailment won't leave many scars to deal with in my adulthood (my childhood history will say otherwise, but that doesn't matter anymore), so I won't have a label on my head unless I cry it out to the world. That is why I normally avoid getting into topics like these, and why I've only shared this information with certain people here, but there you have it.

But if you don't mind, I generally avoid these kinds of conversations (except for this one time where I think it's necessary), so buh-bye again.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:11 am
by Adsolution
Spanex wrote:As you can see if I never got help I would have turned out much worse than who I am now. In fact I would have never come out of my shell and actually be able to say 'hello' to passer-by's. So it's a good thing that they diagnose early and get the children with such mental ailments some extra help by bringing them to the proper schools.
I know you aren't responding to this, but I just have to say that that's a very good point.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:02 pm
by Mammothphant 2
I still think that a "diagnose badge" is a very bad thing because it also might lead for that some people (who dont know what diagnose means) start to only see the person with a diagnose as "a diagnosed lad" instead of seeing the persons key features.

I mean, i have also asperger diagnose, but i dont want that others start to see me as an asperger, i want that others see me as a gentle and loveable 17 years old man who wants to be a part of the herd, who is dreaming of becoming a father and who loves bowling, drawing, playing Rayman games and much more.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:14 pm
by The Edditaur
Mammothphant 2 wrote:I still think that a "diagnose badge" is a very bad thing because it also might lead for that some people (who dont know what diagnose means) start to only see the person with a diagnose as "a diagnosed lad" instead of seeing the persons key features.

I mean, i have also asperger diagnose, but i dont want that others start to see me as an asperger, i want that others see me as a gentle and loveable 17 years old man who wants to be a part of the herd, who is dreaming of becoming a father and who loves bowling, drawing, playing Rayman games and much more.
I've found a great way for people to not see you as an asperger, don't tell them. Surprisingly most people I know only know about autism and such because I've told them about it (In fact, I've even noticed aspergic characteristics in some of the other people I know that they hadn't noticed themselves). And if people judge because they know you're an aspie, I'd just avoid them.
Anyway, mayhaps we should get back on topic? :P

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:32 pm
by Yoshidude99
I can't find one Lum in the Bayou. Everytime I play through it I seem to miss it.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:35 pm
by Master
Yoshidude99 wrote:I can't find one Lum in the Bayou. Everytime I play through it I seem to miss it.
You're playing the PS1 version yes?
Check Haruka's walkthrough:

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:36 pm
by Haruka
I should remake that walkthrough: the sound quality leave a bit to desire. :oops2:

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:27 pm
by Yoshidude99
That video is weird. I don't remeber Razorbeard eating a lum in the cutscene.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:16 pm
by Master
Yoshidude99 wrote:That video is weird. I don't remeber Razorbeard eating a lum in the cutscene.
It's a major cutscene in the other versions, as Razor eats a Yellow lum, decreasing the total count to 999 from 1000, this lum then ends up in a secret area in the Tomb Of The Ancients.
In the PS1 version, the one you are playing, it is a mere red lum, which could explain why it did not leave as big an impact.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:15 pm
by Yoshidude99
That explains it Razorbeard was gaining health for the final boss fight. It looks harder on DC.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:16 pm
by Haruka
Razor is way harder in PS1 version.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:17 pm
by Adsolution
Yoshidude99 wrote:That explains it Razorbeard was gaining health for the final boss fight. It looks harder on DC.
Nah, the graphics are just better and darker making it look more epic and menacing.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:49 am
by Yoshidude99
Haruka wrote:Razor is way harder in PS1 version.
Wasn't that hard when you got the hang of it.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:31 pm
by Haruka
Of course, but I tell this for people who never saw the PS1 battle or experienced it.

It is the same thing as Rayman Origins: the bosses look hard at first, but they are ridiculously easy when you learn all their move patterns.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:07 pm
by Yoshidude99
Daisy was still hard for me even when I learned its moves.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:26 pm
by TeensieKing
Yoshidude99 wrote:Daisy was still hard for me even when I learned its moves.
It was easy for me when I learnt its moves