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Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:00 pm
by stan423321
It's made of yellow lums which produce red lums. Simple.

Also note that in RRR-GBA there are more than 1000 lums. Sure, not cannon, but what can we do without true R4?

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:14 pm
by spiraldoor
Play R:HR? :P

Seriously though, I think that there always were, are and will be one thousand yellow lums, and that In The Beginning they created the Blue, Purple and Red lums, and then the four different colours combined their powers to create Polokus, in accordance with the Knowledge From The Lums from which we gain most of our information on this world...

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:22 pm
by Joshua822
It's made of yellow lums which produce red lums. Simple.
That's arguable, because then André wouldn't be attacking the heart at all. Because he can't transform the yellow lums into black lums.

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:23 pm
by spiraldoor
How do we know that?

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:30 pm
by CheatCat
spiraldoor wrote:Play R:HR? :P

Seriously though, I think that there always were, are and will be one thousand yellow lums, and that In The Beginning they created the Blue, Purple and Red lums, and then the four different colours combined their powers to create Polokus, in accordance with the Knowledge From The Lums from which we gain most of our information on this world...
You forget the green lums! :( They are wery powerful, becuse they can restore Rayman!

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:56 pm
by spiraldoor
The Green lums were not mentioned in R2 when Rayman gathers the knowledge from the Yellow ones, so I'm guessing they came about in other ways.

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:20 am
by Holy Crap
Xenon wrote:The sceptre harnesses power from the Heart of the World, presumably, else it would not have the power and energy to convert black Lums to red ones.
Joshua822 wrote:
No, the Heart is made of 1000 yellow lums. There can be no doubt about this.
But why would André attack the heart of the world then. He wanted to transform all those red lums into black lums...
As far as I can gather, Andre wasn't trying to use the sceptre or the heart to turn red lums into black lums. He simply needed their power to "reproduce infinitely". Converting isn't really reproducing, so I think he was referring to something different. In the very final Reflux battle (when he has wings), there are no lums around, and yet hundreds of black lums fly out of Reflux's back, which I presume to be from Andre reproducing.

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:00 am
by Joshua822
How do we know that?
How do we know if yellow lums can be transformed into black lums. It was not mentioned in the game or the manual.
As far as I can gather, Andre wasn't trying to use the sceptre or the heart to turn red lums into black lums. He simply needed their power to "reproduce infinitely". Converting isn't really reproducing, so I think he was referring to something different. In the very final Reflux battle (when he has wings), there are no lums around, and yet hundreds of black lums fly out of Reflux's back, which I presume to be from Andre reproducing.
Xenon wrote:The sceptre harnesses power from the Heart of the World, presumably, else it would not have the power and energy to convert black Lums to red ones.
Yes, he uses the scepter of Reflux to multiply. But he wanted to transform the energy ( that would be the red lums ) of the heart into an army of hoodlums. Thats said by Murfy in The Fairy CounciL

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:25 pm
by Xenon
As far as I can gather, Andre wasn't trying to use the sceptre or the heart to turn red lums into black lums.
Indeed, but Rayman was bestowed with the ability to convert Lums, so the sceptre or the Tetris (I think) must have had this power, even if Andre was not trying to get hold of it.

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:52 pm
by Hunchman801
Xenon wrote:Tetris.
Let's dance! Image

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:11 pm
by Cairnie
Oh man Basshunter why are you one of my guilty pleasures ;___;

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:12 pm
by spiraldoor
It's called "the Leptys", you know. The only one who calls it "the Tetris" is Globox, who probably misheard Gumsi. The name "Tetris" is most likely connected to the third part of the Final Reflux battle, in which rown of blocks disappear.

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:55 pm
by Xenon
Perhaps the Tetris is a similar force to the Leptys, and is what removes those blocks in the Reflux battle!

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:01 pm
by Hunchman801
spiraldoor wrote:The name "Tetris" is most likely connected to the third part of the Final Reflux battle, in which rown of blocks disappear.
It's probably just a random joke.
Xenon wrote:Perhaps the Tetris is a similar force to the Leptys, and is what removes those blocks in the Reflux battle!
:boon:

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:27 pm
by Xenon
Yeah, I also think I took that one a little too far.

But maybe the 'Tetris' is a branch of the Leptys and is specifically the power that enables Rayman to transform Lums. The Leptys must, after all, possess a much wider and more important energy (or energies if you will) else Gumsi would not want it.

Although to be honest, I think the idea of mispronounciation is by far the best one.

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:33 pm
by spiraldoor
Xenon wrote:But maybe the 'Tetris' is a branch of the Leptys and is specifically the power that enables Rayman to transform Lums.
Didn't Gumsi say "Leptys" when giving the power to Rayman?

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:38 pm
by Xenon
I think he said "unleash the power of Leptys", from which the Tetris energy could be released.

But I'm not going to continue arguing a case I don't believe to be true. I'm just seeding ideas :P

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:49 pm
by spiraldoor
He said something like "Oh Leptys, father of the Knaaren, grant unto this warrior the greatest of powers" or something very similar to that.

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:15 pm
by Hunchman801
Xenon wrote:Although to be honest, I think the idea of mispronunciation is by far the best one.
I would say it's the only one :P

Re: Old bosses in Rayman4?

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:20 pm
by Joshua822
Well, why don't we listen to what he says :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aecaAFp9 ... re=related