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Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:14 pm
by SegaNintendoUbisoft
Ugh, you thought that Knuckles design was a good idea?! You don't go and change a character like that! Seriously? I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm nitpicking but, really, that?

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:16 pm
by OCG
sonicbrawler182 wrote:>judging a show based on silohuettes of character designs

A lot of fans seem to be doing this, and it's "GREEN EYES SANIK" all over again.
Let's get to teh most important aspect, teh character design :P

Jokes aside, I still have feeling they will turn Knuckles into racist stereotype and I am not liking that.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:19 pm
by SegaNintendoUbisoft
SegaNintendoUbisoft wrote:Ugh, ywho thought that Knuckles design was a good idea?! You don't go and change a character like that! Seriously? I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm nitpicking but, really, that?

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:20 pm
by MLII
OldClassicGamer wrote:I still have feeling they will turn Knuckles into racist stereotype.
um. mate.

he is literally a bright fucking red echidna. i fail to see how you can possibly make a racist stereotype out of that. o3o

i personally like the silhouettes from what we've seen, but eh.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:25 pm
by OCG
Some people were even calling Knuckles racist N word in Sonic fanbase. I believe it is because his theme was a rap song, because of voice and because they think he resembles person from Jamaica due to his shoes. Now they will most likely turn him into guy on steroids with Mr T voice.

I call all of that bullshit

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:35 pm
by Master
Oh, for crying out loud. There's no point coming up with all of these crazy ideas from a simple silhouette, we have no idea how things will turn out.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:37 pm
by SegaNintendoUbisoft
Master wrote:Oh, for crying out loud. There's no point coming up with all of these crazy ideas of a simple silhouette, we have no idea how things will turn out.
Ok, I'll admit, I over reacted a bit, I apologize.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:48 pm
by Master
It's no issue, but I think people ought to see the redesigns themselves before putting on their naysayer hats, and this whole thing about personality? We don't know anything at all, the fact that people are somehow translating a simple shadow into an entire personality baffles me.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:58 pm
by sonicbrawler182
OldClassicGamer wrote:Some people were even calling Knuckles racist N word in Sonic fanbase. I believe it is because his theme was a rap song, because of voice and because they think he resembles person from Jamaica due to his shoes. Now they will most likely turn him into guy on steroids with Mr T voice.

I call all of that bullshit
Knuckles never was a racist stereotype. The rap songs really fitted his personality in the older games - he was an isolated figure who found it difficult to socialise. He was used to living on his own, protecting the Master Emerald. That's why he was always tough, but would occasionally mess up due to being a bit gullible. Almost every time Knuckles reaches out to someone by accepting their help, he gets double-crossed, which is partly where his tough and "gangsta" personality came from. He had to be tough and isolated, because that's what he did best. This was also why his relationship with Sonic was always interesting - despite being rivals, he learns more and more that Sonic is trustworthy. Ironic that his most trusted companion is someone he is very competitive with. This trust later extends to other characters, like Tails and Amy, and to some extent, Rouge (as she represents his first experience with female charm, and he irrationally is nice to her at times because of that).

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:00 pm
by Keane
I just hope they don't try to make Sonic too trendy. Then again I'm probably not gonna watch this anyway so meh.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:02 pm
by sonicbrawler182
I feel like I'm obligated to watch it regardless of it's quality as tons of people are going to ask me what I think of it anyway.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:03 pm
by Master
Y'know, I hope the series touches on what you've said, Brawler.
I'll follow it if I can, I'm interested to see how it turns out.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:42 pm
by OCG
sonicbrawler182 wrote:
OldClassicGamer wrote:Some people were even calling Knuckles racist N word in Sonic fanbase. I believe it is because his theme was a rap song, because of voice and because they think he resembles person from Jamaica due to his shoes. Now they will most likely turn him into guy on steroids with Mr T voice.

I call all of that bullshit
Knuckles never was a racist stereotype. The rap songs really fitted his personality in the older games - he was an isolated figure who found it difficult to socialise. He was used to living on his own, protecting the Master Emerald. That's why he was always tough, but would occasionally mess up due to being a bit gullible. Almost every time Knuckles reaches out to someone by accepting their help, he gets double-crossed, which is partly where his tough and "gangsta" personality came from. He had to be tough and isolated, because that's what he did best. This was also why his relationship with Sonic was always interesting - despite being rivals, he learns more and more that Sonic is trustworthy. Ironic that his most trusted companion is someone he is very competitive with. This trust later extends to other characters, like Tails and Amy, and to some extent, Rouge (as she represents his first experience with female charm, and he irrationally is nice to her at times because of that).
I know he is not racist stereotype. I just said reasons that I think why some other people think he is, and seeing that he will look like on steroids, I remembered Crunch Bandicoot - a character who is also red, looks like on steroids and has Mr T voice. I would hate to see Knuckles turned into something like that, but Master is right. It is way too early to judge the show now.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:52 pm
by Stryj
My mancrush Fat Mario has been to Croatia one day, and took a very suspicious photo:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/946 ... G_2821.JPG

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:23 pm
by Dart
sonic jizz café? anyways, despite the thought provoking photo, i'll be watching the first few episodes anyway.
edit: shadow jizz café

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:54 pm
by Master
Hm, why nick the Shadow icon?

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:21 pm
by SegaNintendoUbisoft
So, people seem to be upset about the 25 extra lives and the Sonic Omochao pre-order thing. It's like they forgot the Deadly Six Edition exist.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:38 pm
by Master
Nah, it's a 3DS preorder incentive, not a Wii U one.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:11 pm
by sonicbrawler182
Master wrote:Nah, it's a 3DS preorder incentive, not a Wii U one.
Actually, it's a Wii U one. I've preordered the Wii U version on ShopTo, and they told me I'm getting 3 DLC codes.

One is for the Deadly Six Edition's NiGHTS DLC.
The other two are for the ShopTo exclusive bonuses (Golden Omachao RC vehicle, and 5 Black Bomb Wisps).

The Sonic Omachao is a pre-order bonus for Amazon pre-orders, and the 25 extra lives is for GameStop US pre-orders.

Also, the models shown in the advertisement are blatantly Wii U models.

Re: Sonic the Hedgehog

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:13 pm
by Master
Huh, then I retract my previous statement, I was under the impression that they were for 3DS.