Friendship, love et cetera
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NyaNyaLily

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Re: Friendship, love et cetera
So, if you are feeling pretty shitty and a friend comes to comfort you out of his own, they also do it for their own good?

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Snagglebee

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Re: Friendship, love et cetera
Naturally, they'll be expecting me to treat them the same. They give, and expect me to give something of equal back.CHRdutch wrote:So, if you are feeling pretty shitty and a friend comes to comfort you out of his own, they also do it for their own good?
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NyaNyaLily

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Re: Friendship, love et cetera
I feel like it also has to do with morality though. I mean, if that friend feels like shit one day and you're likeSnagglebee wrote:Naturally, they'll be expecting me to treat them the same. They give, and expect me to give something of equal back.CHRdutch wrote:So, if you are feeling pretty shitty and a friend comes to comfort you out of his own, they also do it for their own good?
"Lol, do I care"
then that's just pretty dickish.
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Ambidextroid

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Re: Friendship, love et cetera
That sounds like a terribly depressing and somewhat ironic take on friendshipSnagglebee wrote:The people who you took advantage from are most likely also going to want to take advantage from you or someone else.
That's the fundament of what we call "friendship". The human is a social being. They are always dependent on each other.
But also humans are selfish and jealous beings, they also want everything in advantage to them.
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Adsolution

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Re: Friendship, love et cetera
Lol, are you guys really that weirded out by Omar's post? It makes total sense to me. It's a bit of a jaded point of view, but he's not necessarily wrong, he just left out the other important half of what makes friendship work, which is the fact that you have to enjoy doing what you do for the other person the same way you enjoy what they do for you. In that sense it becomes less about taking advantage of them and more about introducing something of value into each other's lives. For instance, two people both enjoying or agreeing on something is satisfying when you know the other person is just as happy as you are that someone else feels the same way.
It's about empathy: Looking from your own point of view 1337% of the time won't get you anywhere, rather, being selfless once in a while and inserting yourself into the other person's shoes and feeling what they're feeling will make you love wanting to help them - you know how special it feels for someone to give you their time, you want to implant that same impression in their heads about you, and that they will give you their time in return. You need to remove yourself from the idea that it's an inherently selfish act, because it by definition isn't if you're looking from both your points of view. It's only a selfish act if you're going about it in a selfish manner.
It's about empathy: Looking from your own point of view 1337% of the time won't get you anywhere, rather, being selfless once in a while and inserting yourself into the other person's shoes and feeling what they're feeling will make you love wanting to help them - you know how special it feels for someone to give you their time, you want to implant that same impression in their heads about you, and that they will give you their time in return. You need to remove yourself from the idea that it's an inherently selfish act, because it by definition isn't if you're looking from both your points of view. It's only a selfish act if you're going about it in a selfish manner.