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Re: Best Version of Rayman 2??

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:58 pm
by Master
I'll merge with the Rayman 2 topic we have, the discussion can continue there.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:01 pm
by Adsolution
Drolpiraat wrote:I'm considering buying the sample library from here and then converting it to a Kontakt library with CDXTRACT. It just seems a little expensive as I only want a few samples from it and I'm not even sure whether all the samples I want are in there. :/
There's a chance I may actually see if I can get my hands on this. I'll have to think about it over the course of the next four days though. I don't have a lot of money, but at the moment, I don't have much else to spend it on right now.

Re: Best Version of Rayman 2??

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:02 pm
by OCG
Goldfist wrote:Mine personally is the PS1 version, that's because that and the PS2 versions are the only ones I have lol and in the PS1 version I love the voice acting and the game is just well put together, even though it has the worst graphics of all versions, and I prefer English over gibberish. PS2 is my least favourite because it's glitchy, has bad quality(mainly in sound), buggy, has bad and rushed voice acting, I don't like the free roaming, and you don't get enough help with what you're supposed to do. Overall it's a badly made game that seems rushed and in desperate need of a clean-up. It's pretty cool that it has English AND gibberish voices though. And I heard Dreamcast is the definitive version, I've got the N64 ROM for my Android N64 emulator Mupen64PLUS, but the game won't play. :(
PS2 had rushed voice acting???
Dude, RR had a lot better voice acting then PS1 version.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:04 pm
by Shrooblord
Cool finds, Droolie! Just curious: exactly how did you find out what sample libraries they used? Did you cross-reference between the two artists' webpages?

Re: Best Version of Rayman 2??

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:08 pm
by Adsolution
OldClassicGamer wrote:PS2 had rushed voice acting???
Dude, RR had a lot better voice acting then PS1 version.
The PS1 voice acting was definitely abysmal and much worse than Revolution's. However, Revolution's is also absolute shit, so there's no dignity left over for either of them.

Re: Best Version of Rayman 2??

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:11 pm
by Haruka
Adsolution wrote:
OldClassicGamer wrote:PS2 had rushed voice acting???
Dude, RR had a lot better voice acting then PS1 version.
The PS1 voice acting was definitely abysmal and much worse than Revolution's. However, Revolution's is also absolute shit, so there's no dignity left over for either of them.
I'll agree with the fact that RR's voice acting is much better than the PS1 v.a. but I would like to add that for a better enjoyment of the voiced characters, please, play Rayman Revolution in French. It is by far the best collection of actors, that can really interpret and give emotion to the characters contrary to the english ones. (As an example, Razorbeard does screams when he falls with the Grolgoth in French version, while in English he merely says a "Hey!".)

Re: Best Version of Rayman 2??

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:15 pm
by Keane
Haruka wrote:
Adsolution wrote:
OldClassicGamer wrote:PS2 had rushed voice acting???
Dude, RR had a lot better voice acting then PS1 version.
The PS1 voice acting was definitely abysmal and much worse than Revolution's. However, Revolution's is also absolute shit, so there's no dignity left over for either of them.
I'll agree with the fact that RR's voice acting is much better than the PS1 v.a. but I would like to add that for a better enjoyment of the voiced characters, please, play Rayman Revolution in French. It is by far the best collection of actors, that can really interpret and give emotion to the characters contrary to the english ones. (As an example, Razorbeard does screams when he falls with the Grolgoth in French version, while in English he merely says a "Hey!".)
Haha, I always select the Raymanian option. They probably hoped to save a point on the final scores of reviews.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:16 pm
by Master
I prefer Raymanian as well, having grown up with the PS1 version, I think Rayman 2 stood better without having a feasible language overall, though I think Rayman 3 benefited from the voice acting given its humour.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:18 pm
by Haruka
I grew up with the PC version but I never avoided to play RR with Earthling language. The only exception is for the Japanese RR, where it is already (expanded) Raymanian by default.

Re: Best Version of Rayman 2??

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:19 pm
by Adsolution
Goldfist wrote:Mine personally is the PS1 version, that's because that and the PS2 versions are the only ones I have lol and in the PS1 version I love the voice acting and the game is just well put together, even though it has the worst graphics of all versions, and I prefer English over gibberish. PS2 is my least favourite because it's glitchy, has bad quality(mainly in sound), buggy, has bad and rushed voice acting, I don't like the free roaming, and you don't get enough help with what you're supposed to do. Overall it's a badly made game that seems rushed and in desperate need of a clean-up. It's pretty cool that it has English AND gibberish voices though. And I heard Dreamcast is the definitive version, I've got the N64 ROM for my Android N64 emulator Mupen64PLUS, but the game won't play. :(
For me, it's quite an even split between the Dreamcast, PC and PS2 versions. While the Dreamcast is the highest quality out of all the original versions, I really dislike the ugly thing known as the Isle of Doors; with the Hall being such an integral part of the game, I can't help but feel that the loss of the Hall really takes away from the magic.

The PC version however has the Hall of Doors, which brings the right atmosphere to the game. The graphics are a bit worse than the Dreamcast version though, so they sort of cancel eachother out.

Revolution I feel does bring a very nice sense of adventure and scale to the Glade. The open world, the new level design, the new music and the added hub gameplay elements I all thoroughly enjoy. What prohibits me from easily picking it as my favourite however is the exclusion of the Hall; the Front, while a beautiful area indeed, looks like something that grew out of a shallow, rainbow-filled storybook and does injure the depthy, mystical tone of the original versions. The framerate also has virtually unacceptable dips in many locations, and the severely reduced level count is just dumb.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:20 pm
by Master
Speaking of which, I know Revolution had Raymanian, but it's not the same as the original PC, N64 and DC Raymanian, it always bugged me, actually.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:22 pm
by Keane
Master wrote:Speaking of which, I know Revolution had Raymanian, but it's not the same as the original PC, N64 and DC Raymanian, it always bugged me, actually.
It's OK, but I much prefer the original.

Re: Best Version of Rayman 2??

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:25 pm
by OCG
Haruka wrote:
Adsolution wrote:
OldClassicGamer wrote:PS2 had rushed voice acting???
Dude, RR had a lot better voice acting then PS1 version.
The PS1 voice acting was definitely abysmal and much worse than Revolution's. However, Revolution's is also absolute shit, so there's no dignity left over for either of them.
I'll agree with the fact that RR's voice acting is much better than the PS1 v.a. but I would like to add that for a better enjoyment of the voiced characters, please, play Rayman Revolution in French. It is by far the best collection of actors, that can really interpret and give emotion to the characters contrary to the english ones. (As an example, Razorbeard does screams when he falls with the Grolgoth in French version, while in English he merely says a "Hey!".)
I played it on French in past and French is best one I agree, and what I like about Revolution is that you can put French voices and English subs (something that Rayman 3 does not offer sadly). Also Japanese version has different Raymanian then English versions Raymanian. It sounds more in Japanese style in my opinion.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:31 pm
by Rayfist
Dreamcast is undoubtedly the best version of R2, best FPS, best graphically, and everything looks truly nice.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:39 pm
by Rulez
Master wrote:Speaking of which, I know Revolution had Raymanian, but it's not the same as the original PC, N64 and DC Raymanian, it always bugged me, actually.
It's actually that they recorded separate Raymanian dialogues for each and everything in the game, and I find that impressive. It makes Raymanian seem like an actual language.

It's like the third time I'm saying this.

Also, god fucking damn it Haruka now I have to replay Revolution again but on French! Why must you torture me so :mrgreen:

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:40 pm
by Shrooblord
I didn't like the Raymanian in Revolution. It sounded weird to me, being so used to PC's lines. I listen to the voice acting instead - it's good in some instances and cringe-worthy (to me at least) in others.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:42 pm
by OCG
I actually like Raymanian used in Japanese Revolution (I dunno if English version of RR has same Raymanian because I played English version only on French and English)

Re: Best Version of Rayman 2??

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:18 pm
by Haruka
Adsolution wrote:For me, it's quite an even split between the Dreamcast, PC and PS2 versions. While the Dreamcast is the highest quality out of all the original versions, I really dislike the ugly thing known as the Isle of Doors; with the Hall being such an integral part of the game, I can't help but feel that the loss of the Hall really takes away from the magic.

The PC version however has the Hall of Doors, which brings the right atmosphere to the game. The graphics are a bit worse than the Dreamcast version though, so they sort of cancel eachother out.

Revolution I feel does bring a very nice sense of adventure and scale to the Glade. The open world, the new level design, the new music and the added hub gameplay elements I all thoroughly enjoy. What prohibits me from easily picking it as my favourite however is the exclusion of the Hall; the Front, while a beautiful area indeed, looks like something that grew out of a shallow, rainbow-filled storybook and does injure the depthy, mystical tone of the original versions. The framerate also has virtually unacceptable dips in many locations, and the severely reduced level count is just dumb.
I couldn't have described this better. Those are my top picks in the R2 versions and I have the exact pros and cons about each case. I think the PS1 version should have an honourable mention for having interesting differences, exclusives and adaptations for the hardware of the console the port was destined.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:34 pm
by OCG
PS1 version has awesome 2D prototype that I so much wish to play but can never beat game with enough lums.

Re: Rayman 2

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:27 pm
by Rayfist
A lot of people said the PS1 version were very poor which I HIGHLY disagree with, but it's hard for me to say it's among my top 3.
My top 3 in order are Dreamcast, PC, and PS2

The PS1 version is still great though, the awesome prototype and many differences it has to offer.