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Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:40 pm
by foultzboyz
Holy Crap wrote:
stan423321 wrote:Wow, you wanted to learn French? Sounds impossible for me. It mixes the worst elements of English and Polsih.
it's the other way around actually; england was once conquered by france and their language got radically altered. so english in fact has the worst elemnts of french. polish... no idea. :?
English is a big mess of a language with words that can come from many of your common languages.

And I hope to start on French soon.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:18 am
by Holy Crap
foultzboyz wrote: English is a big mess of a language with words that can come from many of your common languages.
yep, that about sums it up.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:02 pm
by stan423321
Hunchman801 wrote:
stan423321 wrote:It mixes the worst elements of English and Polsih.
How so?
English: letters doesn't match what do you say.
Polish: changing words in many ways.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:55 am
by Holy Crap
one of the terrible english words: chior

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:42 am
by Xenon
Do you mean choir? As in a singing group?

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:38 pm
by Matyuv
Holy Crap wrote:one of the terrible english words: chior
wierd?

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:16 pm
by FAB
Hunchman801 wrote:German is a nice language in my opinion :|
It's also much easier to learn then French, Spanish and Italian. :D

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:34 am
by Holy Crap
depends on what languages you speak, some languages are more similar to other languages.
Xenon09 wrote:Do you mean choir? As in a singing group?
ah yes. see, it's so wierd i spelt it wrong. why ch? why o before i? it makes no sense!

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:47 pm
by Hunchman801
German is twice as hard as Italian for someone whose mother language is French.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:24 pm
by Holy Crap
hm, i think i could see why.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:41 pm
by Hunchman801
Merely because English and German are Germanic languages while French and Italian are Latin languages.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:59 pm
by Holy Crap
yeah, although english borrows heavily from french

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:34 pm
by stan423321
Yes, that's true. In Poland a lot of people learn Russian for the same reason.

Ch in choir appears also in Polish (chór), so I think that's because it was in Latin or something.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:36 pm
by Hunchman801
Wikipedia wrote:One of the consequences of the French influence is that the vocabulary of English is, to a certain extent, divided between those words which are Germanic (mostly West Germanic, with a smaller influence from the North Germanic branch) and those which are "Latinate" (Latin-derived, either directly from Norman French or other Romance languages).

Numerous sets of statistics have been proposed to demonstrate the origins of English vocabulary. None, as yet, is considered definitive by most linguists.

A computerised survey of about 80,000 words in the old Shorter Oxford Dictionary (3rd ed.) was published in Ordered Profusion by Thomas Finkenstaedt and Dieter Wolff (1973)[39] that estimated the origin of English words as follows:

* Langue d'oïl, including French and Old Norman: 28.3%
* Latin, including modern scientific and technical Latin: 28.24%
* Other Germanic languages (including words directly inherited from Old English): 25%
* Greek: 5.32%
* No etymology given: 4.03%
* Derived from proper names: 3.28%
* All other languages contributed less than 1%

A survey by Joseph M. Williams in Origins of the English Language of 10,000 words taken from several thousand business letters gave this set of statistics:[40]

* French (langue d'oïl): 41%
* "Native" English: 33%
* Latin: 15%
* Danish: 2%
* Dutch: 1%
* Other: 10%

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Georges Clemenceau wrote:English is only badly pronounced French.
:P

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:49 pm
by Holy Crap
:lol: i like that last bit.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:56 pm
by Hunchman801
That's a real quote from Clemenceau ^^

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:09 am
by Holy Crap
i realised that.
according to some comedian who's name i can't remember, the australian accent is just the convict cockney accent slowed down because of the heat. so, it is therefore badly pronounced french slowed down because of the heat. yep, language has come a long way.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:09 pm
by FAB
Does anyone know that Japanese people sometimes use french words. I don't know why.

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:39 pm
by stan423321
Because they have no their words for some things.

More "Polish people don't abbrieviate their words!"
driving license - prawo jazdy - pravo iasdee
4:5 for Polish this time

He ate cheese. - Zjadł ser. - Ssiadw sar.
2:3 for Polish this time

collection - zbiór - ssbioor
3:1 for Polish this time

Swedish man - Szwed - Shvet
3:1 for Polish this time

Re: What languages do you have at your school?

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:46 am
by FAB
You mean the japanese don't say everything in their own words and use english and french words too?