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Xenon wrote:If the 'children' are aware of the consequences and potential outcomes of having unprotected sex, it's only their silly selves to blame for any mishaps, but the subject needs to be taught in schools so that young people do know necessary information.

I think it's teaching kids at a young age that's started it all.

I say it's a complex issue just because not all young people are the same. I never held any honest interest in anyone until I was... I don't know... 17? :\ But maybe I'm just weird.

Joshua822 wrote:Ban abortion ? I would say Yes)No. When a 14-year old is ( how do you call it, sex against her will ), and she is pregnant. It's just cruwl to let her have a baby. She's in high school. But i agree that not everybody should get abortion.For the rest, i didn't really think those things trough so i'm not going to give a opinion on it

StaceyW wrote:If I was to become pregnant tomorrow, I would consider abortion, because even though many girls my age have had children, I don't feel I'm ready to be a mother. I've been completely incompetent looking after pets, but a human child...

Typical practice in Poland is to let the baby be born and give it to the family that wannna adopt a child.

Hunchman801 wrote: How can you support death penalty, when it leads to killing innocents because of the numerous miscarriages of justice? How can one decide how deserves to die? That's against all moral.

It is, anyway, more humanitary in some situations than whole-live-jail. And note:
Situation A. Pipe'o'tania doesn't support death penalty. Mr. X is whole-live-jailed. He escapes, rapes a few women, kill a few men and steal money from a few banks. He has been caught. What can we do with him now? NOTHING! He's already whole-live-jailed.
Situation B. Pipe'o'tania supports death penalty. Mr. X is exterminated - and HE CAN'T ESCAPE! Whole problem disappears.

As concerns creationism, it's a medieval absurdity that shall never be taught at school. Education has to be secular, and school must not be used as a vector of religious propaganda.

It's just your opinion. I don't say it have to be taught in similar way that macroevolution is, but small note "however, many people believe world was created by metaphysical existence" can be added.

I don't see how abortion is a problem, as it concerns things that aren't even born. What's the matter with getting rid of embryos or young foetuses?

Remember that you also were one. Would you like to be abort?

And finally, chill out with sex... I can't stand that horrible abstinence propaganda. Just leave people alone, clearly explain the dangers of unprotected sex, but for fuck's sake, shut the fuck up with the no sex before marriage thing. It's up to people's choice when to do it.

You're right here. Remember however no sex before marriage rule decreases possibility of, example, getting HIV.

stan423321 wrote:Typical practice in Poland is to let the baby be born and give it to the family that wannna adopt a child.

That's what I think (one of very few disagreements I've ever had with Hunchman801), though I'm too tired to go into a political discussion.

foultzboyz wrote:

stan423321 wrote:Typical practice in Poland is to let the baby be born and give it to the family that wannna adopt a child.

That's what I think (one of very few disagreements I've ever had with Hunchman801), though I'm too tired to go into a political discussion.

I understand your point of view, however, there aren't enough families for this Not to mention that all young women may not want to get pregnant

stan423321 wrote:Remember that you also were one. Would you like to be abort?

I don't care, it would have been the same thing if my parents decided to have no children at all, and I couldn't blame them for this.

stan423321 wrote:It is, anyway, more humanitary in some situations than whole-live-jail. And note:
Situation A. Pipe'o'tania doesn't support death penalty. Mr. X is whole-live-jailed. He escapes, rapes a few women, kill a few men and steal money from a few banks. He has been caught. What can we do with him now? NOTHING! He's already whole-live-jailed.
Situation B. Pipe'o'tania supports death penalty. Mr. X is exterminated - and HE CAN'T ESCAPE! Whole problem disappears.

You can always find situations where someone's death solves a problem, but as I said, no one has the right to decide who deserves to die, especially if there is a risk of justice miscarriage.

By the way, it's funny how I have right-wing opinions in French politics but left-wing opinions in US politics. However, I would just like to remind everyone that I consider myself rather open-minded, and that because I disagree with someone doesn't mean we can't be friends. It's always a pleasure to argue with rational people, and I'm glad we can have such discussions here

Hunchman801 wrote:I understand your point of view, however, there aren't enough families for this

WHOLE ERROR! In Poland, lots of families wait for a child to addopt.

Hunchman801 wrote:You can always find situations where someone's death solves a problem, but as I said, no one has the right to decide who deserves to die, especially if there is a risk of justice miscarriage.

By the way, it's funny how I have right-wing opinions in French politics but left-wing opinions in US politics.

A) That's why DP shouldn't be executed just after court processing. After a few years, no journalist takes care about the prison, so nobody would find out there was a mistake. So, isn't it better for her/him to go to grave once forever or to stink in jail?
B) That's because most of European politics are left-winged. That's like with temperatures - I find minus ten degrees too hot, American finds it too cold, and physician finds it impossible. (Celsius, Fahrenheit, Kelvin. OH ****, KELVIN?!)

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Your spelling is definitely not awesome as your nick. Please use head.

stan423321 wrote: A) That's why DP shouldn't be executed just after court processing. After a few years, no journalist takes care about the prison, so nobody would find out there was a mistake. So, isn't it better for her/him to go to grave once forever or to stink in jail?

Are you out of your mind?! Just because nobody finds out doesn't make it any less wrong! There is always the chance that the truth will be uncovered and that he'll be a free man once again. Once you've executed him you've lost that possibility.

There are numerous other disadvantages about death penalty. One of them is that it costs money. Contrary to popular belief, it's not cheaper to execute a prisoner than keeping him in jail for the rest of his life. I can't remember the exact numbers, but the cost of executing a prisoner by lethal injection is many times higher than letting him rot in jail for the rest of his life.

Some argue that death penalty has a preventative effect; that would-be criminals won't do anything illegal out of fear of the death penalty. This is just plain wrong. Studies have shown that there is no correlation between the maximum (or average for that matter) prison sentence (including DP) and murder- or crime-rate. Take Norway: The maximum prison sentence here is 21 years, and our murder rate is among the lowest in the world.

Death penalty is plain wrong. It's as simple as that. The idea that states should be legally allowed to execute criminals in the 21st century is just absurd.

I don't agree with you, but your arguments are better than Hunch's ones.

Some argue that death penalty has a preventative effect; that would-be criminals won't do anything illegal out of fear of the death penalty. This is just plain wrong. Studies have shown that there is no correlation between the maximum (or average for that matter) prison sentence (including DP) and murder- or crime-rate. Take Norway: The maximum prison sentence here is 21 years, and our murder rate is among the lowest in the world.

But Scandinavians can go hunting and they are anyway peaceful compared to Slavic people or other like 'em.

Just because nobody finds out doesn't make it any less wrong! There is always the chance that the truth will be uncovered and that he'll be a free man once again. Once you've executed him you've lost that possibility.

O.K., I give up with this one, one point for you.

Another thing is free hotel called jail. Don't you know there are people who go to jail to just live there?

dp is improtant cause murderers may kill agani.

You're a political miracle!

Tobbe7 wrote:

stan423321 wrote: A) That's why DP shouldn't be executed just after court processing. After a few years, no journalist takes care about the prison, so nobody would find out there was a mistake. So, isn't it better for her/him to go to grave once forever or to stink in jail?

Are you out of your mind?! Just because nobody finds out doesn't make it any less wrong! There is always the chance that the truth will be uncovered and that he'll be a free man once again. Once you've executed him you've lost that possibility.

That is very true. And besides, life in prison would be much more horrible than being killed. Life in prison, you have to live your whole life in some shit place where there's no fun to be had. Even if you get out (not necessarily by escaping) you'd find it hard to adjust to the world, because the world changes so quickly.

Now, I agree with abortion. If you don't want a child don't have one. Birth is very painful, why bother if you don't even want the child?

BTW Hunch, I can't remember; what does right wing and left wing mean again?

In general, right-wing is conservative, and left-wing is liberal. Ironically, the right-wing politicians of Europe are probably less conservative than the left-wing politicians of the US, and an American would probably classify a European left-wing politician as a socialist or maybe even communist.

For some reason socialism has become the big bad wolf of American politics. Why is that?

Peter Pain wrote:dp is improtant cause murderers may kill agani.

Improtant = lol.
Agani = double lol.

About abortion, couldn't they just put the kid up for adoption, or leave the baby at the doorsteps of one of those places like in the movies?

So you're against it, then?

Not entirely, but there's always that second option. Hey, you never know, the kid that you put up for adoption might turn out to be a very important person some day.

Yes, and you might also die of puerperal sepsis for a kid you didn't want and that you were never gonna see again anyway.

Yeah, true.

Why does life suck?