Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

[ArcaneDarkling]

When i played Origins with my brother i didnt even notice Ales, My brother just thought his hat was cool.

I remember being completely shocked at the reveal level, I thought he was gonna be an unlockable character lol

Feel weird to think many more people are gonna call him ales from now on

I think there's already many people that do from what I've seen on Tumblr! Now the only thing left to spread it's that it's actually (very likely) pronounced "Eils" as in "Sales"

[Greengoop]

So kinda like the beverage? I’ve only ever pronounced it like that as a joke

[ArcaneDarkling]

So kinda like the beverage? I’ve only ever pronounced it like that as a joke

Yep. Since the name comes from "Salesman". Besides, as zelenbug on Tumblr once pointed out, in the script the way Bubble Dreamer says Ales in Ubbi Dubbi is "Ubales" instead of "Ubalubes". In case you don't know how that works, you add Ub before every vowel sound so this implies the "e" is silent

[Greengoop]

I thought he wasn’t officially called mansay though?

[ArcaneDarkling]

I thought he wasn’t officially called mansay though?

Outside of the script, officially no (but I've heard ok questionable rumours some people that worked on the game still call him that). However the script does say "Ales Mansay", and that's where the name "Ales" even comes from as far as I'm aware?

[Greengoop]

But what sources call him Ales Mansay though?

[ArcaneDarkling]

But what sources call him Ales Mansay though?

As I said before, it's in the script. That's why we don't officially use that name in Raywiki

[Greengoop]

Script of the game?

[Hunchman801]

Yes, unused lines of dialogue found in the game files.

[ArcaneDarkling]

Script of the game?

*Early* but yes. It's the one I talk about on most of this topic!

[Greengoop]

I see, so it is official after all!

[Hunchman801]

I see, so it is official after all!

It depends on your interpretation of the term, but it is by no means canonical, as there was a conscious decision by the developers to remove this content from the game.

[Greengoop]

But it’s probably a better than “the magician” since that isn’t official at all

[ArcaneDarkling]

But it’s probably a better than “the magician” since that isn’t official at all

Magician is mentioned in manuals though

[Greengoop]

That’s probably because Mansay was scrapped and they had nothing better to call it

[EdgyRabbid]

Ales Mansay is such a better name!

[Greengoop]

Yeah, it’s funnier and makes sense. Now I don’t expect to hear from you Deviantart peasants ever again!

[Hunchman801]

But it’s probably a better than “the magician” since that isn’t official at all

It is, like EdgeRabbit said.

Ales Mansay is such a better name!

I find it awful and I'm glad they scrapped it. If only they could have done the same with the rest of the pig latin...

[Greengoop]

But why? It fits the games theme very well

(Also I’d like to point out that this is my 8888th post!!! )

[The Jonster]

Well if it's pig latin, then his name is not actually Ales Mansay, it would be Ales Sman.

But why? It fits the games theme very well

(Also I’d like to point out that this is my 8888th post!!! )

*sees 8889*
Nice counting skill