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Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:03 pm
by ArcaneDarkling
EdgeRabbit wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:54 pm When i played Origins with my brother i didnt even notice Ales, My brother just thought his hat was cool.
I remember being completely shocked at the reveal level, I thought he was gonna be an unlockable character lol
Greengoop wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:19 pm

Feel weird to think many more people are gonna call him ales from now on :lol:
I think there's already many people that do from what I've seen on Tumblr! Now the only thing left to spread it's that it's actually (very likely) pronounced "Eils" as in "Sales" :wink:

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:08 pm
by Greengoop
So kinda like the beverage? I’ve only ever pronounced it like that as a joke :lol:

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:14 pm
by ArcaneDarkling
Greengoop wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:08 pm So kinda like the beverage? I’ve only ever pronounced it like that as a joke :lol:
Yep. Since the name comes from "Salesman". Besides, as zelenbug on Tumblr once pointed out, in the script the way Bubble Dreamer says Ales in Ubbi Dubbi is "Ubales" instead of "Ubalubes". In case you don't know how that works, you add Ub before every vowel sound so this implies the "e" is silent

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:17 pm
by Greengoop
I thought he wasn’t officially called mansay though?

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:23 pm
by ArcaneDarkling
Greengoop wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:17 pm I thought he wasn’t officially called mansay though?
Outside of the script, officially no (but I've heard ok questionable rumours some people that worked on the game still call him that). However the script does say "Ales Mansay", and that's where the name "Ales" even comes from as far as I'm aware?

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:27 pm
by Greengoop
But what sources call him Ales Mansay though?

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:30 pm
by ArcaneDarkling
Greengoop wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:27 pm But what sources call him Ales Mansay though?
As I said before, it's in the script. That's why we don't officially use that name in Raywiki

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:32 pm
by Greengoop
Script of the game?

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:39 pm
by Hunchman801
Yes, unused lines of dialogue found in the game files.

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:39 pm
by ArcaneDarkling
Greengoop wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:32 pm Script of the game?
*Early* but yes. It's the one I talk about on most of this topic!

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:40 pm
by Greengoop
I see, so it is official after all! :P

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:42 pm
by Hunchman801
Greengoop wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:40 pm I see, so it is official after all! :P
It depends on your interpretation of the term, but it is by no means canonical, as there was a conscious decision by the developers to remove this content from the game.

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:43 pm
by Greengoop
But it’s probably a better than “the magician” since that isn’t official at all

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:49 pm
by ArcaneDarkling
Greengoop wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:43 pm But it’s probably a better than “the magician” since that isn’t official at all
Magician is mentioned in manuals though

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:50 pm
by Greengoop
That’s probably because Mansay was scrapped and they had nothing better to call it

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:53 pm
by EdgyRabbid
Ales Mansay is such a better name!

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:54 pm
by Greengoop
Yeah, it’s funnier and makes sense. Now I don’t expect to hear from you Deviantart peasants ever again! :pascontent:

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:04 pm
by Hunchman801
Greengoop wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:43 pm But it’s probably a better than “the magician” since that isn’t official at all
It is, like EdgeRabbit said.
EdgeRabbit wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:53 pm Ales Mansay is such a better name!
I find it awful and I'm glad they scrapped it. If only they could have done the same with the rest of the pig latin...

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:06 pm
by Greengoop
But why? It fits the games theme very well

(Also I’d like to point out that this is my 8888th post!!! :mrgreen:)

Re: Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:07 pm
by The Jonster
Well if it's pig latin, then his name is not actually Ales Mansay, it would be Ales Sman.
Greengoop wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:06 pm But why? It fits the games theme very well

(Also I’d like to point out that this is my 8888th post!!! :mrgreen:)
*sees 8889*
Nice counting skill :mrgreen: