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Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:16 pm
by Master
Hoodlum1 wrote:maxxyboy1000 wrote:I know we saw them both at the same time in Rayman 1, but Ubisoft might be still able to build on this. Maybe in Rayman 1, Mr. Dark took the 'Dark Rayman' out of Rayman, forced him to chase him, and then the dark rayman went back at the conclusion of the level?

Perhaps, this may be a tad far fetched, but what if Darkray and Mr Dark are the same person? Think about it? it could tie a lot of knots together and plus they were never both in the same place at the same time. huh? No?

I doubt it, we see Mr Dark throw a flame which turns to DarkRay just as he jumps away, plus, if DarkRay were a form of Mr. Dark, then why would he mindlessly copy Rayman? Furthermore, why would Mr. Dark turn into DarkRay when he has more power in his usual form?
This is what the Bubble Dreamer says on DarkRay in RO:
Bubble me! Rayman's evil clone! What a nightmare you were! Still single? Well you are soooo Ugly! Blame it on Mr. Dark!
I think that implies at the very least DarkRay was a creation of Mr. Dark.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:53 pm
by Hoodlum1
Though your points may be valid its isnt exactly specified. And i distinctly recall that he casts the firball, disappears and a few seconds later darkray appears. Darkray is a copy and maybe thats what Mr Dark looks like underneath and the bubble dreamer meant that he is that ugly because it was a complete replica of Mr Dark himself! Ha

Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:18 pm
by Master
Hoodlum1 wrote:Though your points may be valid its isnt exactly specified. And i distinctly recall that he casts the firball, disappears and a few seconds later darkray appears. Darkray is a copy and maybe thats what Mr Dark looks like underneath and the bubble dreamer meant that he is that ugly because it was a complete replica of Mr Dark himself! Ha

But why would Mr. Dark want to thoughtlessly follow Rayman in the first place?
Just out of curiosity, what loose ends are knotted by Mr. Dark and DarkRay being the same person?
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:02 pm
by spiraldoor
Hoodlum1 wrote:Though your points may be valid its isnt exactly specified. And i distinctly recall that he casts the firball, disappears and a few seconds later darkray appears. Darkray is a copy and maybe thats what Mr Dark looks like underneath and the bubble dreamer meant that he is that ugly because it was a complete replica of Mr Dark himself! Ha

Why would Mr Dark look exactly like Rayman?
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:17 pm
by Hoodlum1
Master4lyf1 wrote:But why would Mr. Dark want to thoughtlessly follow Rayman in the first place?
Just out of curiosity, what loose ends are knotted by Mr. Dark and DarkRay being the same person?
Why would Mr Dark switch his left and right controls? Why would he make him run out of control? The loose knots could be leaving Mr Dark limless, revealing his true identity would be a shock, having the two most asked about enemies as the one is a nice twist and they would appear in the one game and there could be a nice back plot to it ...just my opinion not blasphamy.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:19 pm
by Hoodlum1
spiraldoor wrote:Why would Mr Dark look exactly like Rayman?
I dunno Rayman 1 characters all look similar anyways.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:29 pm
by Adsolution
Hoodlum1 wrote:spiraldoor wrote:Why would Mr Dark look exactly like Rayman?
I dunno Rayman 1 characters all look similar anyways.
Livingstones, Stone Men, Electoons, Moskito, space pirates, moths... there's lots of possibility. The only ones who look like Rayman are Tarayzan and the Musician.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:42 pm
by spiraldoor
RayFan9876 wrote:Hoodlum1 wrote:spiraldoor wrote:Why would Mr Dark look exactly like Rayman?
I dunno Rayman 1 characters all look similar anyways.
Livingstones, Stone Men, Electoons, Moskito, space pirates, moths... there's lots of possibility. The only ones who look like Rayman are Tarayzan and the Musician.
The Musician doesn’t resemble Rayman that strongly. Tarayzan does, but even he has significant differences. Bad Rayman, on the other hand, looks practically identical to Rayman, and this resemblance makes very little sense if Bad Rayman is what’s under Mr Dark’s cloak. I suppose you could speculate that Mr Dark is the result of a malevolent character trying to duplicate Rayman, but that feels a bit off to me.
Here is an idea that I find more interesting: Bad Rayman is the bastard offspring of Rayman and Mr Dark. Think about it. We know that Bad Rayman is a ‘clone’ of sorts, and his resemblance to Rayman indicates a very close familial relationship... but why on earth does Bad Rayman have Mr Dark’s eyes?
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:41 am
by Hoodlum1
[quote="spiraldoor"] I suppose you could speculate that Mr Dark is the result of a malevolent character trying to duplicate Rayman, but that feels a bit off to me.
Indeed. Maybe rayman is to polokus so wouldnt darkray be from.. Jano? not that outrageous is it?
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:43 am
by Hoodlum1
spiraldoor wrote: but why on earth does Bad Rayman have Mr Dark’s eyes?
Thats what im saying, put a cloak and hat on darkray and he'll resemble Mr Dark a lot

Its all in the eyes...
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:21 am
by Reiska
I hope that Rayman 4 (if you can call it that name) will be epic. Mr. Dark's return would be cool and the story should be great as in Rayman 2.
Let's hope that the developers have enough time to make it great. Most of games could be better, if developers didn't have to rush it.
I also appreciate when you can go backtracking easily, like in Rayman 2. So, if each district could be replayed easier than in Rayman 3, that would be good.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:28 am
by Shrooblord
spiraldoor wrote:Here is an idea that I find more interesting: Bad Rayman is the bastard offspring of Rayman and Mr Dark. Think about it. We know that Bad Rayman is a ‘clone’ of sorts, and his resemblance to Rayman indicates a very close familial relationship... but why on earth does Bad Rayman have Mr Dark’s eyes?
Good point, but I think a 'yuck' is in place here.
Then again, Raymanians don't really have genitalia (except for Rayman, who has a PENUSH) so we wouldn't know how they would procriate anyway. Perhaps this is how; with magic. And if the magic doesn't mix well, you get these evil and mindless characters like Bad Rayman.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:29 pm
by Master
Some things are better not being elaborated upon.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:51 pm
by GNineify
Ick, I've seen enough talking about do they have junk or not...
But about Rayman 4, I just hope they haven't cleaned their trash can, where many creative and cool ideas were thrown to. Save 'em while you still can!
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:10 am
by THEdragon
Shrooblord wrote:spiraldoor wrote:Here is an idea that I find more interesting: Bad Rayman is the bastard offspring of Rayman and Mr Dark. Think about it. We know that Bad Rayman is a ‘clone’ of sorts, and his resemblance to Rayman indicates a very close familial relationship... but why on earth does Bad Rayman have Mr Dark’s eyes?
Good point, but I think a 'yuck' is in place here.
Then again, Raymanians don't really have genitalia (except for Rayman, who has a PENUSH) so we wouldn't know how they would procriate anyway. Perhaps this is how; with magic. And if the magic doesn't mix well, you get these evil and mindless characters like Bad Rayman.
Guys, don't you remember that 'flower ritual' I wrote about ages ago?

Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:35 am
by Shrooblord
THEdragon wrote:Guys, don't you remember that 'flower ritual' I wrote about ages ago?

Some things are better put away in the back of the memory, in that place where neurons get reassigned to controll other things.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:18 am
by Master
Shrooblord wrote:THEdragon wrote:Guys, don't you remember that 'flower ritual' I wrote about ages ago?

Some things are better put away in the back of the memory, in that place where neurons get reassigned to controll other things.
Agreed.
So what to discuss now...
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:08 am
by Shrooblord
In the new Rayman 4, I want a TARDIS.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:35 am
by Keane
In Rayman 4 I want the plot to be about Rayman having to overcome his phobia for livingstones dressed like furries.
Re: What do you want in Rayman 4?
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:35 pm
by Shrooblord
Livingstones kind of look like trolls, and trolls have loads of hair... therefore, Livingstones are already furries! D: