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Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:43 pm
by GOT4N
PluMGMK wrote:Cool! Even though I don't really understand much of it…
Thanks! Yeah Rayman 1 is quite hard to understand when TASed, in fact, I don't understand totally the game too lol

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:50 pm
by Rayfist
Sergiomonty wrote:Not being able to jump on enemies is a major, and I repeat, MAJOR design flaw. Not only it breaks the standards of conventional 2d platforming, but also, the first enemies in the game encourage jumping on them with their big bumber-like hats.
Disagree with this. I think the only flaw of that part in the game was just having no means to kill enemies at all (other than using grimace for the livingstones and having them suicide but I don't think anyone would ever think to use that.) One might argue that it is a good point in the game to teach you of few enemy patterns and avoiding, but there was still no need for it IMO.

It's just that, I don't think being able to "punch" and "hang" should really be counted as "abilities." It's pretty cool from a story stand point since it does show us how Rayman got his powers, but from a gameplay standpoint it's kind of pointless.
INB4 CADDICARUS SWAYED RAYFIST TOO MUCH.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:40 am
by Bradandez
Punching and Hanging only? How about Running? You know one of the most basic things about every single living thing knows how to do?

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:20 am
by Rayfist
I think running is a little more understandable, it sort of gives you an incentive to go back and be able to check missed cages faster. Crash Bandicoot Warped had a running ability that you only get at the end of the game. Although that was mostly for time trial, which R1 doesn't have sadly.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:11 pm
by Hunchman801
Dart wrote:10:07, and leave it to Haruka to make it look like a fucking cakewalk!
I find it hard, not unfair.
sergiomonty wrote:That's quite delusional to be honest, every non-Rayman fan who played Rayman 1 knows how unfair it is. I as a kid knew how unfair it was, and stopped playing it after, like, the second level. And yes, the lack of vertical visibility is a huge design issue.
Generalizations aren't gonna prove your point. :mrgreen:
sergiomonty wrote:The game has a set of rules that are unclear unless you actually spend a lot of times with trial and error. Finding new enemies is kind of scary, not because of how challenging they are or anything, but because you don't know what kind of cheap attack are they gonna execute. It's game design 101. There's no indicative of the type of attack a Hunter can execute, he has a gun, but the projectiles he makes are bonkers in terms of hit box, and you don't have the time to actually react to it. In fact, you spend a lot of time figuring out the weird design that the bullet has... and then bam, it hits you in the face. Seems like a pretty cute joke to have a giant bullet with a hand and a hammer coming out, but it's distracting, too big, and it's pretty fast for a first playthrough. Clearly not user friendly.
I think it's all right to be surprised the first time, this certainly makes enemies more scary. Any decent player would be very careful of an enemy they haven't seen before and keep their distance for a bit to observe their actions.
sergiomonty wrote:Not being able to jump on enemies is a major, and I repeat, MAJOR design flaw. Not only it breaks the standards of conventional 2d platforming, but also, the first enemies in the game encourage jumping on them with their big bumber-like hats.
Just like Ad, I disagree. Video games would suck if they all had the same gameplay.
sergiomonty wrote:Not being able to shot projectile at the beginning of the game makes you believe that jumping is still an alternative for killing, which In games like Megaman and Metroid doens't happen. Oh, and in those games, the enemies are designed to be small, fast, and most of the time, flying, or spiky, which usually leads you to believe that jumping isn't the most reliable way of defeating them.
I never believed that, and it's quite sad for a player to be expecting yet another Mario clone to the point of jumping on the first enemy they see.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:53 am
by Rayfist
What I loved about R1 was how much it strayed far from the traditional platformer (Mario).

But the funny thing is, I feel the exact fucking opposite about Origins and Legends. While they are great games some aspects of them reek of New Super Mario Bros.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:37 am
by Adsolution
And to their credit, they're better than NSMB.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:40 am
by Dart
yeah, a lot better...

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:33 am
by Rayfist
Indeed they are way more fun. Both Origins and Legends too have their unique things that differentiate each other in terms of art style, while NSMB games look mostly the same.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:53 pm
by gamerz31w
did i tell you i found 8 years ago rayman 1 online version when rayman could do a mooncrawling?in some french rayman 1 fanpage website

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:01 pm
by RayCarrot
gamerz31w wrote:did i tell you i found 8 years ago rayman 1 online version when rayman could do a mooncrawling?in some french rayman 1 fanpage website
That's just a simple, broken demo of the original game running in Flash.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:58 pm
by Fifo
Yeah I have a link for it in case anybody wants to try it out.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110 ... 0Based.rar

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:39 pm
by RibShark
Oh, that version of Rayman 1 is the best! I did a speedrun of it once:

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:51 pm
by Fifo
RibShark wrote:Oh, that version of Rayman 1 is the best!
lol not really

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:57 pm
by RibShark
Fifo wrote:lol not really
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Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:03 pm
by Fifo
Nice one RibShark :D

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:11 pm
by Rayfist
Best version of Rayman 1 confirmed.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:22 pm
by Ray502
If only it was fully released...
On another note, Rayman was playing God at 0:32.

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:40 am
by THEdragon
Oh wow, I wasn't expecting much from that game in the video, but I definitely wasn't expecting Rayman to immediately crawl up into the sky. :lol:

Re: Rayman 1

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:46 pm
by Haruka
Ah yes, I remember that glitchy webbased R1 :P.