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Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:58 am
by Zay-el
As an avid PC gamer, I guess I should defend it, in some form. 83

Yes, we all know installation bites...amongst several other stuff, but let us look into the matter, shall we?

Currently, the PS3 is still at the price for which I can get a medium PC. Okay, so I won't be running every game at full graphics, but as my first system was a Commodore 64, I value even the smallest things. The games are yet again, horribly overpriced. Out of the cost of 1 PS3 game, I can buy up to 5-6 PC games even. Say what you do, but the PC has a long line of extraordinary games by now, which have truly written history. Yes, the PC gets faulty frequently, unlike the PS3. Yes, the controls can bite, unlike the PS3. Yes, there is no true motions sensing, unlike the PS3. But looking it through price/value, the PC scores. Why? Rather easy.

PC is multifunctional. I dunno THAT much of PS3, but I'm guessing it can play PS2/1 games as well, to a certain extent. Well...now let's take a look at the PC. Through the work of many programmers over the years, NES/SNES/Jaguar/Saturn/Commodore/PS1/PS2/Dreamcast/GBA/GBC/etc. games are also playable on it. Sure it's harder to take it anywhere, and it's got more parts. But the sheer amount of games seriously overpower the PS3, no matter how new those games might be on it. Adding the fact that PC can be used to CREATE games too, I believe it becomes obvious as to which is better. X3

And no, I don't hate Sony or anything. I own PS1-2, I'm merely stating several facts. Adding myself...I wouldn't buy a PS3 unless it'd have a much more reasonable price. X3

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:31 pm
by Joshua822
About PS2 emulation, some games run but most of them don't :wink:

Well, personally i don't give anything about playing games on High, Low is nice enough if you ask me :wink:

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:46 pm
by spiraldoor
Joshua822 wrote:About PS2 emulation, some games run but most of them don't :wink:
My PS3 has played all 35 or so PS2 games I've tried.
Zay-el wrote:Out of the cost of 1 PS3 game, I can buy up to 5-6 PC games
I saw Resistance: Fall of Man for 9.99 at Gamestop yesterday.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:55 pm
by stan423321
And I saw a game for PS3 (I don't remember, which) for about 150 PLN (50$, and remember our paycheck is WAAAYYY smaller than American/German/French one), and a PC game for 30 PLN.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:30 pm
by Zay-el
Okay, so we CAN find several out-of-the-rule occasions, but that doesn't stand for the entire world and for every single purchase. I can start bringing up differences too. Fact is a fact that the PS3 is badly overpriced.
spiraldoor wrote:
Joshua822 wrote:About PS2 emulation, some games run but most of them don't :wink:
My PS3 has played all 35 or so PS2 games I've tried.
Zay-el wrote:Out of the cost of 1 PS3 game, I can buy up to 5-6 PC games
I saw Resistance: Fall of Man for 9.99 at Gamestop yesterday.
I see PC games (GOOD games, like Legacy of Kain: Defiance and Rayman 3) for 5$, or even less...

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:04 pm
by Joshua822
I got Rayman 10th anniversary for 7 euro's :P But, the argument about games being more expensive doesn't go up. A lot of new Pc games cost as much as PS3 games do (well, at least here ^^ ) :wink:

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:07 pm
by spiraldoor
Zay-el wrote:Okay, so we CAN find several out-of-the-rule occasions, but that doesn't stand for the entire world and for every single purchase. I can start bringing up differences too. Fact is a fact that the PS3 is badly overpriced.
PS3 is actually really good value, though. Do not underestimate the inclusion of the Blu-ray player, which can cost 1500 euro WITHOUT a games console attatched. And the PS3 is actually the BEST Blu-ray player, too, as it's easy to get it to output at 1080p, which you'll have trouble doing with most Blu-ray players. Sony sells every PS3 at a loss.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:44 pm
by stan423321
Whatever you meant by this, we're talking on game systems. And my parents, for example, if I would by PS3, still would be unhappy on this point cause they would have no "separate" player.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:29 pm
by Joshua822
It will take years before Blue-Ray will become a standard for movies, so that doesn't count as a argument :wink:

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:35 pm
by spiraldoor
Yes, it does, because in the next few years Blu-ray will replace DVD as DVD replaced VHS.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:24 pm
by Joshua822
And in the next few years the PS4 will come out :P

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:35 pm
by spiraldoor
And everyone will buy PS3s.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:20 pm
by Joshua822
Andthe PS3 Blue- Ray playback will be bad quality compared to regular blue-ray players...

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:22 pm
by spiraldoor
Quite the opposite. Also, the PS3 can upscale DVDs into 1080p.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:14 pm
by Tobbe
spiraldoor wrote:Quite the opposite. Also, the PS3 can upscale DVDs into 1080p.
Not possible.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:20 pm
by Phoenixan
Impossible? Upscaling is simply taking the image and scaling it up to fit the screen. :\ Though that isn't always a clean method, as seen in some youtube video demonstrations of the PS3 playing games like FFVII.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:15 pm
by Tobbe
Okay, let me rephrase that: It's impossible to do what spiraldoors thinks the PS3 can do, which is to magically make the image quality of a DVD much, much better.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:15 am
by foultzboyz
He's still ranting, and he still knows little about what he's arguing. It is entertaining though...(There were some more entertaining fanboys at GameSpot, though this is alright.)

And if I even cared about Blu-Ray (and I don't), I'd buy a Blu-Ray writer for my desktop.
spiraldoor wrote:And everyone will buy PS3s.
I won't.

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:06 pm
by stan423321
spiraldoor wrote:Yes, it does, because in the next few years Blu-ray will replace DVD as DVD replaced VHS.
And then the UHD would begin, so it would make no sense to buy HD console.
spiraldoor wrote:Also, the PS3 can upscale DVDs into 1080p.
As most of HD TVs do.
spiraldoor wrote:<Blu-ray player> can cost 1500 euro
And nobody cares about these models, only these that costs about 1700 PLN (so, err... 500€) have chances to be bought by normal people.

I don't want to make you angry, spiral, but I have heard about game, that looks worse on PS3s than on PC and X360. Its name was something like Falloff E... ah! Fallout 3!

Re: Best Videogame System

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:12 pm
by Joshua822
It's simple why it looks better on the computer. The computer is and will always be more powerfull then any game console. For example, ASUS new flagship has 3 GTX-280 video cards and a Core Extreme processor overclocked to 4 Ghz. The PS3 and the X360 don't stand any change to a High-end PC ( and now we're not even talking about 8-core beasts like the Mac Pro :P ). At the moment only the Wii does thanks to it's revolutionary gameplay :wink: